On Nov 28, 12:52*am, gpsman wrote:
On Nov 27, 1:35*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:

On 11/27/2011 12:56 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Gun issues rank
right up there with abortion and taxes as being the MOST political
issues in the US.

There are no "gun issues" save for people owning them who have not been
properly trained in the safe use and handling thereof.

Non sequitur. *Training does not prevent willful misconduct, as you
should well know. *You don't operate motor vehicles in accordance with
your training.

Cite?

US citizens have
the right to own guns, don't like it, don't live here - and don't
criticize us for our choices if you live elsewhere.

You tell 'im, Nate. * The US is above criticism... from beyond our
borders.

I wonder how you might feel about that criticism if it were to fault
US speed limits...?

Depends. Is it a US citizen doing the criticizing, or a xenophobic
foreigner?

Guns are and will be used to kill innocent people, intentionally, by
accident, and under very depressing circumstances. *Gun proponents can't
wish those events away no matter how hard they try.

It was a hunting accident, you moron.

Hitting that which one is presumably aiming can be classified as an
"accident". *You must be some kind of firearm expert.

And, I presume, a clairvoyant, since the guy could have shot his
friend intentionally. *It is reported that the police say they know
more than they have any method of learning other than from the sole
survivor, to wit:

"Police said Birch, Bolognani and a third man were hunting Saturday
morning when Birch shot a deer."

Unless the police have recovered the round from the deer and matched
it to Birch's gun, they are speculating.

The story, from the typical AP reporter working part-time when they
are not in 3rd grade, does not specify the method by which the police
think they learned that which they profess to know.

Let me guess, you think that meat magically appears on little
shrink-wrapped styrofoam trays?

Let me guess. *You think "meat" is shot with a gun before slaughter...
and you've never "observed" must less "read about" what goes on on a
kill floor...?

Not all meat comes from the supermarket. In some significant parts of
the US, it might even be "most" meat does not come from a supermarket,
but the shooting with a gun (rifle or slug barrel shotgun) *is* the
slaughter.

You're falling into the same trap as the OP, ASSuming that what is
commonplace and normal where he lives is applicable to somewhere that
he's never even been.

nate