On Oct 26, 8:31*pm, BobR wrote:
On Oct 26, 1:32*am, harry wrote:





On Oct 26, 4:24*am, RicodJour wrote:

On Oct 25, 1:26 pm, harry wrote:

This because you are so primitive/backward in America. *Each heat
source in UK/Europe is individually thermostatically controlled. There
may be more than one heat source in each room. *It ii seasily possible
to knock 25% off the heating bill by doing this.
It has been so for about thirty years. *American heating systems are
fifty years behind European ones in terms of economy.
You have a lot of catching up to do.
Example.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermos...radiator_valve

A TRV does not control the furnace, it controls a radiator. *It can
only _prevent_ heat from going to a radiator in a room that doesn't
need the heat. *A balanced system does not need redundant
thermostats. *Redundant thermostats are for systems where the original
installation was done by people who did not know what they were doing..

TRVs are thrown on every radiator to make up for systems that are
messed up by clueless renovations done by someone's half-wit cousin
who didn't know WTF they were doing, didn't know how to run heat loss
calculations, and removed/replaced radiators or otherwise threw a
system out of whack. *Sticking a TRV on every radiator is akin to
using premium fuel to 'fix' your inbred cousin's shade-tree mechanic
tune-up of your car. *A waste of money and a band-aid in the wrong
place.

You are truly spectacularly and entertainingly clueless. *I have
changed my mind. *Please don't ever go away. *You are welcome to be
our dear old village idiot for as long as you live.

R

BTW the idea that "balancing" a heating sytem somehow makes it energy
efficent shows how clueless YOU are.
Balancing a system merely ensures that the heating water is able to
get to all parts of the sytem. *It is not a means of temperature
control.

There is more than one effective and efficient heating system and I
can assure you that your heating water isn't worth **** to people that
live in climates where cooling is used more than your single purpose
heating system. *A well balanced system, be it forced air or heated
water will ensure that the heat is not going to areas that don't need
it leaving them cold while over heating other areas. *Your individual
room thermostat may be an attempt to compensate with individual
controls for a system that was not properly designed and balanced to
start with.

The single point that you consistantly seem to miss throughtout this
discussion is that NO SINGLE SYSTEM can be all things to all people
and there is more than one effective and efficient way to heat and /
or cool a residence.- Hide quoted text -

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Yes it can. If it is suffciently flexible and simple to set up by the
user.
What you mean is you have not experienced one.