On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:58:32 -0700, "T.Alan Kraus"
wrote:

On 10/26/2011 4:58 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:43:51 -0700, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:05:15 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Oct 25, 10:53 am, John wrote:


The Economist of 22 - 28 Oct 2011, page 89, has an article about a new
group called The Berkeley Earth surface Temperature that has developed
new statistical methods of analyzing the exist earth temperature data.

Apparently available temperature data is not formatted in sufficiently
detailed form to use normal methods of calculation. for example some
data is unevenly spaced, some from sites inside cities that are
subject to warming from the local environment, some from ships at sea,
and so on.

NASA and NOAA already have on line data bases of their raw data and
Berkeley plans on doing the same. In addition the American
Meteorological Socioty is planning a single on line data base
containing all available temperature data as well as all analysis of
the data.

Berkeley's initial four papers have been distributed for peer review
but initially their statistical studies compare very closely with the
work already done by NASA, NOAA and HadCru, the three most definitive
studies. which all, by the way, show a definite increase in earth
temperature.with the largest increase from about 1980 to present.

--
John B.

That is the easy part. Next is WHY? And only after one understands
why, comes what to do ( and what not to do. )


Dan

That Mars and the moon also exhibit increased temperatures in that same
time frame indicate what? That Man has built Taco Bells and way too many
freeways on those bodies? Too many Air Conditioners on Mars?

Gunner


I doubt that anyone can definitely say why warming occurs but it is.
And given the politics and (dare I mention it) the amount of money
some people are making out of the Green revolution, it may well be a
question that no one actually wants answered.


--
John B.

I don't want to be a smart ass, but apparently both earthquakes and
global climate variations follow the same mathematical formula:
P(E)=m/n

cheers
T.Alan

Do you mean that the probability of a change in temperature is the
same as the probability of an earthquake? Or that the same formula can
be used to calculate the probability of a warmer , or colder year
average temperature?

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John B.