On Oct 26, 1:46*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 26, 12:45*pm, harry wrote:





On Oct 26, 3:21*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 26, 2:22*am, harry wrote:

It's not possible to balance a system because heating requirements
vary around the house depending on weather conditions and other
activities.

Are you some sort of rare orchid that requires a precise temperature
+/-1 degree to live? *Regardless of weather conditions and "other
activities", heat does not stay put. *It moves about. *If your
thermostat is set at that Hot House Harry optimum, there will easily
be a five or ten degree swing in temperature in that particular room.
You understand that much, right?

Eg it you turn the TV or even the lights on it produces heat, a
thermostat will turn the room heating down.

You are a veritable font of prejudice, bias and misinformation,
wrapped in a sugarplum coating of misanthropy.

I find it difficult to address your Rule Britannia! mentality without
accidentally laying into the British, but I realize that you are an
anomaly and in no way reflect a thinking man's perspective. *For
instance, your average person would understand that no one at any
point mentioned balancing a system permanently, as that is only
possible in a closed system at a particular point in time, with a
constant heat source. *You know - imaginary, much like your logic.

Your average sane person would realize that, unlike you, they have
friends and family that can bear to be in the same room with them. *If
there are two people in a room, you have two different opinions on
what the thermostat setting should be. *Three people - four opinions.
Conduct a little test - next time you are in a room and it's two
degrees too cold for you, you great sloth, ask a 50ish woman with
perspiration on her upper lip if she'd like you to turn up the heat.
After you can see straight again, report back here on your findings.

There have also been rumors that people are warm-blooded and can
actually produce heat from food. *I suppose in your lethargic layabout
world, exercise is anathema, and even getting up and moving about
requires the greatest effort. *So it is understandable that you are
seeking that constant supremely regulated temperature of the womb so
you have one less thing to do for yourself. *Most people don't have
those issues.

Do give exercise a try. *It regulates your metabolism and helps you
deal with temperatures a couple of degrees higher or lower than what
you believe is required by all.

You really are a half wit. *I see you have cunningly moved from
denying that I am right to questioning the need for this level of
control.

Au contraire, mon ferret, I quite clearly called you non compos mentis
_and_ that you were wrong in both specifics and details.

Take for instance one of your other inane posts where you spout about
gross efficiency and buy into some claim of heating efficiency greater
than 100%. *Regardless of how _you_ look at it, it is misleading.
You're buying the amp with the volume control that goes to 11. *Google
it.

Run it by me again how a TRV works. *Someone is cold in the house and
everyone else is warm, how does the TRV call for heat in that one
radiator? *More importantly, why would you want to fire a boiler for
one radiator? *Talk about wasteful.

You also ignore, conveniently, the costs of installation and
maintenance of a needlessly more complex system.

The point of accurate temperature control is not only to do with
comfort but energy saving. If the temperature in *a heated area is
reduced by only a couple of unnecesary degrees, large savings can be
made.

You do understand that the human heating apparatus is far more
variable, and its sensing mechanism far more sensitive to perceived
temperature, than a thermostat, right? *You do know that a person's
heat output and sense of temperature varies by time of day, when food
is consumed, and the thoughts they are thinking, right? *You do know
that only an idiot looks at a thermostat to see if they are warm or
cool, right? *Oops. *Sorry.

I don't dither with things. *If I am a bit cool, I put on a long
sleeve shirt. *If I'm a bit warm I roll up the sleeves. *No technology
can possibly sense where on my body I am cool/warm and adjust just
that area. *I have arms, legs and a brain and I use them to temper my
environment to suit me. *I don't see a need to lay about waiting for
it to be done for me. *That way lays obesity and sluggish thinking.
Oops, again. *Sorry.

Accurate temperature control can easily knock 25% off the energy
bill.

Easily knock 25% of an energy bill for someone who has an unbalanced
system and dithers with a thermostat to 'fix' it. *Sure - that I can
buy.

I don't buy the 25% savings nonsense. Let's say we have 8 rooms.
Harry, being a sensitive wall flower, demands the temperature be
72F. With one thermostat, let's say it instead winds up like this:

75 in one room
74 in one room
72 in 4 rooms
70 in one room
69 in one room

Now with a lot more complexity and cost, we install a system
that keeps it at 72 in all 8 rooms. How the hell does that save
25%? It doesn't. The energy usage will be about the same.

Even using a setback thermostat at night, where the temp
is lowered by 10 or more degrees in the whole house,
only saves 10-15%.

In other words, harry is once again the village idiot.