Larry W wrote:

In article ,
Pete C. wrote:

Kurt Ullman wrote:

In article ,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote:

Some locksmiths, mostly in cities, have that capability. I'd
open the yellow pages, call several locksmiths in the city
(cities) near you.


But don't you need at least one active key to program it from?

Depends on the vehicle I would think. If you or the locksmith have the
"real" factory scan/diag unit you can normally program new keys without
any current keys.

Just wanted to add, on many vehicles, the _key_ is not programmable.
rather, the scan tool or key replacment procedure programs the
vehicle ECM (computer) to recognize the key. What's more, certain
make/models have ECM with a limit on the number of keys they will recognize,
and no way to "free" a key code no longer used; IOW, once you've
programmed the vehicle for new keys 10 times (typically, might be more/less)
that particular vehicle will not be able to have any more new keys added
without a new ECM too. Good luck with that.

On some Fords at least you get something like 8 active keys max by
default, but the dealer or someone else with the VCM/IDS laptop can set
the PCM to unlimited mode which is intended for fleet use.