On Oct 17, 4:24*pm, "Robert Green" wrote:
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
*"Robert Green" wrote:

It seems very odd to dismiss the current, ever-growing OWS protests
because
they're allegedly so untidy. If that's the worst their critics can heap
on
them . . .

* *MUCH easier to dismiss them because they have no purpose or
suggestions for change. They are just sorta existing and getting upset
yet offering nothing to add to the debate.

The Tea Party was similarly amorphous in the beginning. *However, I think
the point of the OWS protests is actually much more clear than the right
acknowledges. *They believe that Wall St. has too much influence over
politics in the world, which I agree with. *They believe that the average
wage earner has been taking it on the chin because of the unregulated credit
default swaps, over-leveraging and much more while Wall Streeters are raking
in multi-million dollar salaries and commissions.

I disagree strongly that they're not offering suggestions or that their main
objectives are unclear. *

I have yet to hear a single suggestion or even a position of what
they want. What I have heard is:

The Jews control the economy
I don't want a $7hr job
Monsanto is changing your DNA with genetically engineered foods.
Eliminate the FED
End capitalism....







They want to return to an era when Wall St. was far
more closely regulated. *They want to see businesses that are too big to
fail broken up into pieces where failure doesn't require their tax dollars
for bailouts.

The last one is worth considering.





Capping outrageous CEO salaries is on their agenda (and mine)
as well as returning the taxation of the super-wealthy that apparently has
only benefited them, not the common man.

One more time, the top 1% of taxpayers are paying 40% of
all income tax. How much is enough for you? What gives
you the right to determine what someone else makes?
It's the stockholder's issue, not yours.



If lowering taxes on the rich was such a super good thing for everyone, why
are so many non-Wall Streeters suffering? *

Another lib distortion. Taxes were lowered at the same time
on ALL Americans.



The Tea Party shot its load
during the mid-terms. *

Dream on....



The OWS folks are poised to make their impact at the
much more important 2012 elections. *By then, I am sure that they will begin
to agree on the major points of reform needed.

I see no chance of them agreeing on anything. They are
very much like the angry mobs that show up at G8
meetings, just mad as hell, but they don't even know
about what.


*You know those damn
Democrats. *If there's anything they excel at, it's organizing the common
man. *As my journo prof said: *The pendulum swings and it's swinging now.

Sure is. That's why the Republicans control the House.



Oddly enough, the Tea Party may even join in once they realize it wasn't the
government that screwed them, but the machinations of the Wall St. "titans"
that forced the government to bail them out.

The Tea Party join those smelly skunks sleepins and ****ting in
the park? I think not.




Wall Street needs to return to being a place where capital is raised for
legitimate investments, not to give working people with 401K's "haircuts" by
flash trading, saddling companies that employ thousands of American workers
with so much debt that they go bankrupt and much, much more. *If Wall Street
were functional, it would not have needed billions of dollars of taxpayer
money to right itself after the staggering events of 2008.

Legitimate investments according to whom? You and those
smelly protestors? Or some govt bureaucrat, just like the other
bureaucrats who have been there all along, yet we had the meltdown
anyhow. BTW, once again, almost all that money has been paid
back to the govt. I know, you'd rather destroy Wall Street by
punsihing them and having them all fail when that business just
moves offshore to friendlier marketplaces.




There's something wrong with our system and the OWS is starting to shine a
very bright light to find out where the problems are and what we can do to
fix them. *The Volcker rule, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, huge
jail sentences for insider trading and many other changes are already afoot.
As the Mad Max movie said: "The dice are rolling, I can feel it." *The Tea
Party barely gets any news coverage anymore while the coverage of OWS is
skyrocketing by comparison.

Well of course. Watching hippies have sex in a park and
get arrested by the scores is more amusing.



Even Bloomberg, the patron saint of Wall St. who used his enormous Wall St.