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On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:51:37 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
On 10/14/2011 6:06 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:24:59 -0600, Just wrote:
On 10/13/2011 1:09 PM, Leon wrote:
On 10/13/2011 1:12 PM, Han wrote:
wrote in :
You are assuming none of this would have happened w/o government. You
are simply wrong. People are capable of making their own decisions and
business is capable of determining how to give the individual what they
want. Right now, if I want saw stop I can buy it. With "balance", I
will not have that choice. The LAST thing I want is some government
hack making decisions for me.
You and I have decided through our voting for congresscritters what
should
be done (lobbyists play no role, right?). Therefore the balance has been
struck. Of course you can appeal to the SCOTUS ...
You don't really believe that the person that you voted for is doing
what you wanted, do you?
And what if the person you voted for didn't get elected?
You try harder. Maybe volunteer next time.
You miss my point. If I voted for someone who didn't get elected, the
statement that I decided through my voting what should be done is a
false statement.
No, I missed nothing. Because the person you voted for lost does not mean
that you weren't part of the decision process. Your logic is faulty. However,
if you're always on the losing side, you're a kook.
You are both kooks. This is a representational democracy. Your non-presidential
vote allows you and your neighbors to select another neighbor to represent your
neighborhood (district). This works on every level from local municipal, through
county, state and federal elected offices. The presidency is an exception, but
aside from declaring war (a controversial topic itself), the president has little
direct power - he cannot pass laws, only suggest them[*].
Since no neighborhood consists of people who think things should be done the
exact same way, the elected representitive is (but they don't) required to
consider _all_ his or her constituents when representing them before the
body politic. Too often, however, elected representatives (particularly
republicans[**], lately), believe that they represent the _party_, not their
neighborhood, leading to the kind of corrosive politics that we are currently
experiencing.
The stones said it best. "You can't always get what you want, but you get what you need".
scott
[*] Contrary to popular political rhetoric, executive orders are very limited
in scope and applicability, and may only apply to areas of responsibility
delegated to the executive branch by congress (who can always revoke the
delegation - checks and balances, dontchanknow).
[**] Quoting McConnell: "My goal for the next three years it to make sure that
the president isn't elected to a second term". This was televised. What
happened to the half of Kentucky that the Senator is supposed to be
representing? Over half his fellow citizens voted for the President.
Suck it up Senator and do your damn job. ****ing politicians.