aemeijers was thinking very hard :
On 10/10/2011 8:09 AM, Mike Dobony wrote:
harry explained :
On Oct 10, 4:48 am, Mike Dobony wrote:
harry explained :





On Oct 9, 6:16 pm, Mike Dobony wrote:
After serious thinking Bob F wrote :
Mike Dobony wrote:
Look at other nations that have national health care. Canadians are
coming to the US for treatment. They have to wait for over a day in
the emergency room for treatment. In the UK it takes nearly two
years
to see a specialist to diagnose sleep apnea and then you are not
allowed to buy necessary medical equipment to deal witih it. Is that
what you want here?

More people leave the US for treatment than come here for
treatment. What
does that say?

In 2007, an estimated 750,000 Americans traveled abroad for
medical care;
the number is expected to increase to 6 million by the end of this
year.1
On the flip side, only a little more than 400,000 nonresidents
visited the U.S. in 2008 for the latest medical care.In 2007, an
estimated 750,000 Americans traveled abroad for medical care; the
number is expected to increase to 6 million by the end of this
year.1 On the flip side, only a little more than 400,000
nonresidents visited the U.S. in 2008 for the latest medical care.
http://www.the-hospitalist.org/detai...edical_Tourism...

http://www.health-tourism.com/medica.../usa-research/
Are they going to countries with socialized medicine or just cheaper
health care? There is a push in Canada to go back to the old way as
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It works here in the UK.

It would have taken me well over two years there to get my CPAP for
sleep apnea in the UK and several more years to get the humidifier, if
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You are in cloud cuckoo land. Dunno where you get this drivel from.
If you need such equipment it normally takes a couple of weeks.

It takes 18 months or more to get the sleep study. Then it takes several
more months to get the doctor's evaluation of the study. Then several
more months to get the CPAP, minus the humidifier, unless you have
extremly unusual other conditions. Source: sleep apnea NG from several
British posters. Nobody from the UK had any better experience. The
shortest time from the first call to set up the appointment to getting
the machine was somewhere in the two year range.



Not that I am advocating medical self-treatment, but here in the states, you
can just go out and buy the machine on your own. Used ones are often
available pretty cheap. Other than the out-of-pocket expense, is there a
medical downside why someone could not just buy one to try, and see if it
helps? The machines can't kill you, can they? Or are the machines a
controlled-access item in UK?



I would like to know where you can buy one on your own. Every supplier
I know of, whether in person or online, demands a doctor's
prescription. You can't even buy the mask without a prescription! Ebay
quit allowing these for sale because of the prescription requirement,
per law.

(disclaimer- I would of course not recommend anyone do any invasive
procedures or controlled medication regimens on their own. )