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On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:29:34 -0400, WangoTango
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In article ,
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 07:14:17 -0400, PeterD wrote:

On 4/5/2011 2:37 AM, no one wrote:
anti religious are you ?


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On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:06:03 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
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hamilton wrote:

On 11/18/2010 9:43 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Too far for me to travel. They are located at: 3701 West 12th
Street, Topeka, Kansas so if any of you are ever in Kansas on
business,
you know where to stay away from.


Google maps shows this to be in a residential area.

I wonder how the neighbors like having them there ?



That was my thought, too.

Not much that can be done. Most cities don't have the brains to
impose zoning laws on churches, misconscrewing the intent of
"separation of church and state".

Personally, though, I believe in "balance": Any time a church is
allowed on a corner, it should be mandatory that the other three
corners are occupied by a Circle-K, a gas station, and an adult book
and "toy" store with an XXX-theater :-)

And churches should be taxed like any other retail business.

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"I have a dream that [we] will one day live in a nation where
[Obama] will not be judged by the color of [his] skin but by the
content of [his] character."

Obama will then be impeached.

"Free at last! free at last! Thank God Almighty, we [will be] free
at last!"



No, he's stating the truth: churches SHOULD be taxed as they are a
business.

No, Churches are not a for profit business.
REALLY???
I guess you haven't seen how most big churches are run.
Plenty of profit.

Really? Great. Where can I buy stock in these profitable enterprises?
Ah, you have to be one of the insiders that get all the church paid
perks.


Out of curiosity, if I send 5 bucks to one what have I bought? Can I
sell a used one?
You have bought a bunch of bull****.
If you can peddle bull****, more power to ya', if you can get the
government to let you do it tax free, you must have started another
bull**** religion.


After all, why should others be forced to subsidize any
church?

You aren't.

Sure *I* am, what they DON'T pay other have to make up.

"Subsidize" is the paying of money to some person or entity (usually
to produce a thing)..
You can play with your Popeil Pocket Hair Splitter all you want, but
when a church gets to pay no taxes, the general population have to make
up the difference. Call that what you want.


You are not paying the church, or any of it's members, a blessed, or
cursed, thing.
Yes, I am, I'm covering the money they don't pay.


Granting churches tax free status means that the government is
supporting them...

Not extorting money is not 'support'.

So, it is OK that they "extort" from others?

"Extortion" is the obtaining of property (including money) from
another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force.
Yep, glad you have caught on.


The church does not threaten to beat you up, or send you to jail.
Nope, but it gets the government to do its' dirty work by forcing ME to
pay for taxes the church didn't.
This isn't that hard to understand.


The term is closer to government taxation except they throw in the
qualification of "illegal use of" before force to make it 'ok'.
Uh huh...


Doesn't really matter, churches have gotten a free ride for too long.

Which proves the point, since the founding fathers had a demonstrably
clearer view of what's Constitutional than current demagogues.
Freedom OF religion includes freedom FROM religion too.
So, why do I have to cover they taxes they don't pay on all that land
and money they rake in?



If this is 'right' then I'm starting my own religion...

Which is why there are standards to exclude tax evaders inventing
'fake' religions

Umm, ALL religions are fake.

Speaking of demagoguery.

Just how many other words in the Constitution do you deem 'fake'?
The words are real, it is the religions that are false.