On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:50:16 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:
On Aug 27, 11:16Â*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:46:46 -0700 (PDT), "
Boy you sure like to twist things into a whole new
area. I never suggested any tax evader should be
released. I only pointed out that people regularly
are sentenced to jail for refusing to pay the IRS.
The IRS only puts natural born criminals and incredibly stupid people
who want to be criminals in jail.
Deadbeats all.
I believe the discussion was whether the govt
uses force to extract tax payements. Sounds
like force to me.
Maybe to you. I see it as law and lawbreakers.
Force is ALWAYS used against anti-social wackos.
IRS doesn't stand out at all to those who follow the law.
If I get pulled over for doing 5 over the speed limit and refuse to
cooperate with law enforcement, where do you think I end up?
Only criminals (fraud) and wackos who won't cooperate in any fashion
end up in jail because of IRS violations.
IRS is always making settlements for unpaid taxes, arranging payment
plans, and doesn't want people in jail where they can't pay.
They are pussycats.
Traffic courts are lions in comparison.
This "force" bull**** only happens to anti-socials who want to break
the law, same as somebody going 5 over, then refusing the results.
Criminal conduct.
And a cop can jack you up against a car drive a knee in your nuts
if that's what you want.
Not true about non-gov creditors having your ass in jail either.http://www.startribune.com/investigators/95692619.html
Go read that again and see if you can understand
the difference. The article talks about people being
arrested and dragged into court for debts they owe.
Whereupon, they are required to fill out forms,
disclosing assets, etc. Show me one guy
there that was actually sentenced to say 3 months
or a year in prison for not paying a debt to a creditor.
I'm going to make you stay honest and put this back in.
Refuse to pay the IRS and they send you to
jail. No other creditor has that power. Now
that's what I call FORCE..
YOU said that "No other creditor has that power."
To send you to jail..
Not true. I don't care how long they spend in jail.
Their asses got thrown in jail.
It's a damn shame I have to paste back what was said to keep you
straight..
You show me one person the big bad IRS has in prison that isn't a
stone lowlife or out-and-out wacko.
My sister is an IRS auditor, and it take years to put together a
criminal prosecution. They only go after real assholes.
Most lowlifes never see jail.
She mentioned one rich sleazy medical practice operator who was
pocketing the SS and Medicare payments of his low wage workers
for years.
Never did a day of jail time
Stupid is as stupid does.
Look up "mechanics lien" before you deadbeat a contractor.
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There you go again. You think you're the only
one here who's heard of a mechanics lien?
Again, show me someone who's be sentenced
to actual jail time, even 3 months via a
mechanics lien.
Why? I never said a mechanics lien could lead to jail.
You said this:
"If you're a contractor and you do work for me and I don't pay you,
the most you can do is sue me to collect."
Wrong. I can tie up your house with a lien.
Since you didn't mention that, I just thought I'd let you know.
Shouldn't get upset about that.
I can show you people
serving time via the IRS.
Bring 'em on. I sometimes enjoy reading about scum getting their
comeuppance.
Looking forward to it.
--Vic