On Aug 27, 11:16*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:46:46 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
On Aug 27, 10:29*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:54:32 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

* Sorry, but tax levies where someone comes in and takes my money
against my will is force. Period. You can have a system of laws and
still have force for enforcement.

ANY creditor can repossess your vehicle, lien your home, garnish your
wages, and levy your bank account to zero.
That's what happens to deadbeats who don't pay their bills.

--Vic

LOL. *That's a hoot! * The IRS regularly sends people to jail
for not paying their income tax. *Everyone from Al Capone
to Wesley Snipes. *If you're a contractor and you do work
for me and I don't pay you, the most you can do is sue me
to collect. *Refuse to pay the IRS and they send you to
jail. * No other creditor has that power. * Now
that's what I call FORCE.

Go ahead and organize a picket line calling for the release of Capone
and Snipes.


Boy you sure like to twist things into a whole new
area. I never suggested any tax evader should be
released. I only pointed out that people regularly
are sentenced to jail for refusing to pay the IRS.


The IRS only puts natural born criminals and incredibly stupid people
who want to be criminals in jail.
Deadbeats all.

I believe the discussion was whether the govt
uses force to extract tax payements. Sounds
like force to me.



And a cop can jack you up against a car drive a knee in your nuts
if that's what you want.
Not true about non-gov creditors having your ass in jail either.http://www.startribune.com/investigators/95692619.html

Go read that again and see if you can understand
the difference. The article talks about people being
arrested and dragged into court for debts they owe.
Whereupon, they are required to fill out forms,
disclosing assets, etc. Show me one guy
there that was actually sentenced to say 3 months
or a year in prison for not paying a debt to a creditor.




Stupid is as stupid does.
Look up "mechanics lien" before you deadbeat a contractor.

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There you go again. You think you're the only
one here who's heard of a mechanics lien?
Again, show me someone who's be sentenced
to actual jail time, even 3 months via a
mechanics lien. I can show you people
serving time via the IRS.