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Default Dishwashing machines need phosphates

On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:40:03 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message
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Was this due to dishwashers, or farmers?


I'll leave that for your research to uncover. Remember, nationwide figures
don't tell you much about individual rivers, as I've learned through this
exercise.


Well, based on what I have already found,that 95% goes into agriculture,
I'm going with farmers.



But this says little about how much P gets into water bodies.
Virtually all the P in detergents leaves the point of use via
wastewater. The farmers' interest lies in maximizing uptake of P by
plants and minimizing loss by leaching or erosion.

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Keep in mind, too, that many environmental regulations are based on
percentages, and there are loopholes all over the place for people who need
to use something that is banned, with the recognition that a few motivated
and determined users of most troublesome chemicals are not the problem. It's
the mass markets that are the problem.


But isn't this the key question? In other words, why chase 0.5%?


Where's this .5% come from?

BTW, we found the new Cascade formulas lacking, but a generic brand
(Home 360?) from the local Hannaford works fine.

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Ned Simmons