On 2011-07-26, GeoLane at PTD dot NET GeoLane wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:59:50 -0500, Ignoramus2004
wrote:

A company is offering to sell me some Cincinnati #2 tool and cutter
grinders.

I looked on ebay and I see a lot of dreamers hoping to get a lot of
money for them, but no actual sales.

This is a little bit of a giveaway to the situation, but I want to ask
anyway, how much are those things worth?

Also, how can I ascertain their condition?

i

A couple of years ago, someone was closing his grinding shop and
offered to sell me three Cinci #2's for around $500 apiece tooled. The
drive was too far and my Toyota Tacoma too underpowered to haul that
sized trailer, so I passed on that deal. Glad I did. The Cinci's
are huge. Those things are really white elephants because of their
weight / size. I have two KO Lees and they're nice sized grinders.
The KO Lees come in three sizes - small (300 series), medium (600 &
900 series) and large (6000 series) Similar to what I'm reading
between the lines on what you're thinking, in retirement, not too many
years in the future for me, I could see potting around selling
resharpened endmills to other hobby machinists. One of my machines
came with a Weldon endmill grinding fixture.

What Gunner or someone else said about there not being many buyers
right now is true. I doubt I'd break even on my two unless I sold
some of the tooling separately, so that each machine came with only
minimal tooling. I bought with the idea that when they're gone from
industry in general, they'll be somewhat rare and possibly more
desireable, and over time inflation will give me the dollars back, if
not the entire purchasing power of the initial cost.

Recent Craigslist prices for KO Lees in my region have been running
from $950 to $1500. I doubt either sold. I know the one at $950
didn't because I tried to buy some tooling from the seller about 6
weeks after the posting. It was still around and the guy decided to
just hang onto it rather than sell it at what he considered to be a
giveaway price. My intuition is that they should sell for around $450
with some tooling. A few hundred more if they come with tooling that
you could actually do something with, like the end mill grinding
fixture. I bought my second one this spring for $650, but it came
with a complete second grinding head for a 6000 series machine, plus a
little tooling. Cleaning up the second head is a work in progress.

Iggy, contact me off list. If you're seeing stuff like that come up
for sale in your area, maybe you'll run across some tooling I'd like
to buy. I can give you a photographic shopping list to keep your eyes
peeled for.

RWL


I can buy a SHIPLOAD of T&C grinder tooling. I was looking at those
piles that the guy had and I have no clue. Email pictures of you want
to my userid ichudov at domain gmail dot com.

I will go there again.

i