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On Jul 21, 5:38*pm, wrote:
Jim Yanik writes:
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Jim Yanik writes:


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harry writes:


On Jul 20, 12:23ÂÂ*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:02ÂÂ*pm, Frank
wrote: All power plants have maintenance costs.


PV?


Pretty low maintenance costs.


solar uses a lot of water,gotta keep the panels clean.


Just watched a video.
Every 2 weeks:
Wipe off dust with dry towel.


That video isn't telling you everything.
wiping without water means scratches that lower output.
It also doesn't remove bird crap or tree sap.


Dust lightly with soft towel.

Wash with towel dampened in water, vinegar, detergent.


That doesn't sound like a lot of water.


for all those panels?
it has to be done more often than every two weeks,too.


Yes, all those panels.
The video said every 2 weeks.
How much dirt is in the air where you live?
In places with no rain, just dusting will do the job.
Downwind of a coal plant, maybe more than every 2 weeks.
I still see no evidence that more often than 2 weeks is required.

So I still don't see a lot of water being used.

then * there's * inverter * maintenance,and * if * storage *
batteries used,battery maintenance. * Plus,the hazards of *battery
chemicals and lead,along with fire hazard.


Just looked up maintenance procedure for a solar panel
inverter.


"replace every 10 years".


what about dust,power surges,electrolytic capacitor dryout,etc?
Cap failure is a common occurrence in power systems.


Yeah, what about them. *They're also subject to random meteorite hits.
Anything can go wrong. *Still the cost of maintenance remains replace
every 10 years unless you have some other source to cite.

BTW,I note that the system you cited uses TRACKING solar panels,so there's
maintenance on the mechanicals that move the panels.Then there's snow/ice
removal,seeing as it's up North(N.Jersey?).


The system at Bell Labs is not tracking.

They could remove snow if they want, or just wait until it slides off.
We get snowfall in Central NJ but it's not going to stick to a slick
glass panel for long.





Anyway, it mostly just sits there and pours electricity into the
grid. *Pretty cool, especially with this heat, you can imagine
all the air conditioners it's running.


"POURS" electricity? *how big a plant is it? how many MW?


1.2MW:


http://newprovidence.patch.com/artic...ystem-to-power
-bell-labs-campus-3http://tinyurl.com/3srexrm


It probably runs THEIR AC and maybe the building lights.


The building is pretty big. *The article says it's enough power to
power 200 homes.


Is that peak or average output?


Read the article or do more research.

I don't get it. *Are you against power generation or does it just
feel good to point out that someone has to push the snow off the panel.

Sure there are problems, I'm well aware of all the issues, I've heard it
all before. *I still see an open field that wasn't doing anything but
growing grass, still growing grass but now also pushing some power into the
grid. *It's going to take a lot of fancy BS to convince me this is a bad thing.

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I have PV panels. They are supposed to last a minimum of 25 years.
There is no maintenance.