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Hawke[_3_]

On 6/7/2011 7:30 AM, wrote:
On Jun 6, 12:03 pm, wrote:

What do you think the people created the government to do? Originally,
it was not much. But as time passed and times changed people learned the
government could do a lot more than they could on their own.

Our government was founded on the principal of limited government.
That is, the first and most important function of our government is to
limit government.
Over the centuries, th US has become more and more perverted, until
our government's claim is "more limited that those other oppressive
governments".
This limit to government has made our country, with low average IQs,
the most prosperous nation on earth.
Why have other countries not copied our freedom from government?
Why have we not maintained our wonderful freedoms?
Because of liberals like Hawke have infiltrated the educational and
media systems.
Much like an AIDS virus invading the immune system.

Actually the problem is from people filled with misconceptions and have
a propensity to believe in mythology. I never go to an engineer to learn
about history or government. They don't know about those things.
Measuring and weighing and doing math I ask them about. Not about
government, because they are as ignorant about that subject as I am
about higher mathematics.

That said, try to understand the circumstances that led to our founder's
strong belief in limited government. They came from a time when the only
government they ever knew were absolute monarchies, tyrannies.
Governments like this did nothing for anyone but itself and for it's
aristocratic allies. It's purpose was not to serve the needs of the people.

With that idea of government it's natural to think the best government
is one with strictly limited powers. But men of the 18th century never
understood what a modern government, that is only there to provide for
the needs of the public, would be like in the future. So they only saw
the government in a negative way and as something that had to have
severe limitations on it. I don't disagree with this thinking in
general. But modern western governments like Germany, the UK, Canada, or
the U.S. are not like 18th century monarchies.

So times have changed and so has the way we think. While we all see the
potential of abuse by government we don't see it as the enemy. We need
it too much. It is an asset that we want under our control and doing
what we want it to do. People today in general, except for the old
fashioned conservatives, like government. They use it all the time for
their benefit. They allow it in all aspects of their lives because it
makes life better for them, not worse.

Americans have as much or more government in their lives as any country.
Would we do that if we didn't like government? Everything we do from our
schools, our infrastructure, our safety, our health care, just about
everything you can name we want the government involved. Did 18th
century men? No. But then they wanted to be able to kill someone in a
duel if they felt insulted. So you see, they thought a lot different
from what we do today. Except for you conservatives. You still think a
lot like 18th century folks.

Hawke