On Jun 3, 4:03*pm, dpb wrote:
On 6/3/2011 1:46 PM, dpb wrote:
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OK, I found the annual meeting minutes program I was looking for--
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In there the current estimated construction costs are--

Coal $2500-$2600 /MWe
Nuke $5000-$5200 /MWe
Wind $2400-$2500 /MWe (including tax credits)

The kicker is that w/ wind we can only expect roughly 40% of that
installed capacity to be available (on annual capacity of 112 MWe
installed observed over nine years of actual production) so the actual
average installed cost is roughly 2.5X the above or $6000 /MWe-ongrid.

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BTW, just for comparison--for the time period the overall average
capacity factor for Wolf Creek Nuclear Station was 87.1% w/ a peak
annual capacity of 95.8% in '07; the _lowest_ being 81.5% in '05 owing
to an extra week (roughly) longer outage duration costing roughly 2% on
annual output.

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Can we zoom back and look at the big picture, rather than get buried
under copious amounts of detail?
When I played waterpolo, varsity level, we had a play called "******'s
Washup". I would make so much froth, that the refs could not see that
I was elbowing some poor opponent in the chops.
In politics it's called obfuscation.
Everybody is so busy looking at some tracks, going: Mmm doesn't look
like bear tracks, mmm doesn't look like moose tracks.... could it be
deer tracks??? then the train hits them.

YES, YES, YES, we KNOW about all the fog, we KNOW about the insane
amounts of details.
WHERE is the solution?
Too many engineers vying for perpetual employment by clouding issues
with bull**** details. I know. I was one.

Instead of pummeling each other with lofty 'educated' crap, why not
stop this bull**** train and look at what makes sense?

Goddammit!!!!!