"rangerssuck" wrote in message
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On May 27, 7:51 pm, "RogerN" wrote:
"rangerssuck" wrote in message

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On May 27, 12:33 pm, pyotr filipivich wrote:



" on Sun, 22 May 2011 18:08:35 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

On May 22, 6:37 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:

If you're going to descend into bitching about trivial costs, you're
only
going to delude yourself about our real problems. Deal with the real
ones
first. Then you can bitch about the trivia all you want. Just don't
waste
the country's time and energy bitching about things that are so small
you
can hardly measure them, while the big ones are eating us alive.
Leave
that
to the Tea Party.

I believe it is important to cut all the trivial costs. If you do not
cut trivial costs, you will never have the courage to cut the big
ones.

If it is only a few cents per person, then by all means, let us
eliminate that "few cents". "Take care of the pence and the pounds
will take care of themselves."

usefulness. But PP gets $75 million in federal funding. That's 5.35 x
10^-6
of the federal budget.

Are you going to get serious about this, or are you going to play
child's
games?

If you are going to be serious, you have to take the same approach on
all costs. Saying you are only going to look at big programs is
really saying cost cutting does not matter.

I'd start with the question "Why is this the Business of the
Federal Government?" Then go on with "Do you favor funding the other
side, too?"

tschus
pyotr

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pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

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\So, as I said a few posts above here, in response to RogerN:
\
\While you're busy cutting programs that don't fit your ideology, how
\about calling for immediate defunding of the office of faith based
\initiatives? How about rescinding the tax-exampt status of ALL
\religious organizations? Of course, in the greater scheme of the
\federal budget, these items don't amount to a hill of beans, but
\what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

How many crimes are prevented by pastoral council? How about Pastors that
visit the sick in the Hospitals? Many churches help the poor with food
and/or clothing, what $ value is that? In other words, these religious
organizations also serve a secular purpose. Thomas Jefferson gave taxpayer
money to missionaries because they were beneficial with the Indians. In
many instances, if we would have sent a few more missionaries we probably
would not have had to send as many troops.

Today as you see crime on the increase, as you see the world going down
the
****ter, thank people just like yourself, your kind of thinking is the
cause.

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\How many abortions are prevented by the family planning services
\offered by Planned Parenthood? I'm not talking about abortions, I'm
\talking about contraception and counseling.

Won't Obamacare provide these services?

A woman went to a planned parenthood abortion mill to inquire about an
abortion, she hadn't made up her mind but wanted to discuss it. She was
nervous and all so they gave her some medicine to help her relax. After
thinking it over, she decided she didn't want the abortion. They told her
that the medicine they gave her could harm the baby and talked her into the
abortion. Afterward she found out the medicine they gave her wasn't harmful
to the baby, they lied to her to talk her into the abortion.

\How many tax dollars are saved by Planned Parenthood's providing early
\detection of breast cancer and a host of other diseases?

So we need to fund Obamacare and planned parenthood?

\Roger, I NEVER said that religious organizations should not be tax
\exempt. I was trying to put the discussion into a frame that you might
\understand. I see I touched a nerve.

I don't know the details but I think there are some that shouldn't be tax
exempt, some use religion as a way to get rich, Jesus threw that type out of
the temple saying they turned the house of prayer into a den of thieves. I
also know of some that do quite a bit of good for the little bit of money
they make.

RogerN