On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:00:15 -0500, Ignoramus31410
wrote:

On 2011-05-26, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2011 22:02:42 -0500, Ignoramus23924
wrote:

On 2011-05-26, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2011 17:59:02 -0500, Ignoramus23924
wrote:

On 2011-05-25, Tom Gardner w@w wrote:

Nobody will convince Ig that Obama isn't a god, he has to pee on that
fence for himself. But, the fact that he's interested in politics
means he will eventually find some indisputable information that will
make him rethink his positions at least a little bit at first then the
whole house of cards.

Actually, I changed my mind many times, based on facts that became
available. If I see anything that seriously proves that Obama does not
have the personal integrity that he has (in my opinion), I will easily
change my mind.

So far, what I hear, is hateful hissing of Republicans and counterfeit
chain emails.

Besides hearing the hateful hissing of Republicans via the all DNC
hissing hatemail, what do you read? What are your sources for news?


I read Google News for news, mostly, and Drudge report. Also
Washington Post and New York Times. I have a few categories
pre-selected under google news.

With the exception of Google, you're leaning a bit left there. The
Post was nicknamed the "Pravda on the Potomac." You might try a
subscription to the Washington Times for a bit of balance; y'know, see
what and how the other half thinks and get some added perspective.


Larry, you are stuck in this "right wing", "left wing" mentality,
instead of looking at the substance of things. This mentality is not
unusual, but it is not helpful.

Well, if someone sees something as white and another sees it as black,
asking each party to look at the information from the others'
perspective is a good thing, IMHO. It helps you to see the reality
and brush away the spin from either side.


I suggest reconsidering the way you read news, staying generally away
from any editorials and opinions, of any kind, and reading more facts
instead, to make your own conclusions.

I offer the same suggestion to you.


Then think about what exactly is the implication of

1) Buying so much jewelry from Tiffany as to incur a revolving loan of
500,000 USD

Dubious, indeed.


and

2) Accepting an unusually advantageous loan terms that Tiffany is not
offering to the general public, amounting to an advantage of $100,000
per year based on the 500k balance.

Ah, but it -is- available to the highrollers from all walks of life.
Did you read the reply from Tiffany? key phrase "Time Zero Accounts"
and there are many of them, not just Newt's.

If anyone buys a metric ****load of anything from a company, the
company usually gives them all the associated freebies. Vegas comps
their highrollers with free $5,000/night suites.


and

3) While at the same time being in a position to influence legislation
that affects Tiffany's.

What legislation is coming out which changed jewelery regs, Ig?


Approximately 15 years ago I admired Newt Gingrich, but many nasty
facts came to my attention since then.

Ditto. I wouldn't vote for him today, but I'm proud of what he has
done in the past. He's far too humanly frail in the present. And as a
CONgresscritter, I don't trust him (along with the other 554)

--
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It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, for to live life well one must live life with
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