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Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:39:35 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


"David R. Birch" wrote:

On 4/24/2011 7:24 AM, wrote:
On Apr 23, 11:32 pm, "David R. wrote:

So far, they've been redirected into the owner's pockets, productivity
goes up, profits go up, the guy doing the work at the bottom gets the
same real dollar value as he did 15 years ago.

David

So explain why the guy doing the work should get more real dollar
value than he got 15 years ago. Is he better educated?

Yes, he's had 15 years learning the best way to get his job done the
most productive way.

Does he work faster?

Yes, what he has learned to do now takes 1/4 the time to do it as when
he started and has been given other duties that he's mastered.

Is it harder to find a replacement if he quits?

Yes, because you can't find a replacement with 15 years with the
company, anyone you hire is 15 years behind and, based on what I've seen
lately, will never catch up.



Bull****. Sometimes a new hire is more productive than the guy who
was there for 15 or more years. I've been threatened with physical
violence for outworking the old timers, and producing better work. One
job took the 'expert' 7.5 hours per unit. They only took me 18 minutes.


I can back up that with a large handful of companies in the LA area that
I do work for.

Some of them have Latinos dragging their feet, a far smaller number have
whites dragging their feet.

But people in many shops..do drag their feet..people who have been there
many many years.



Then they get upset when the company has to close for good.


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