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On 3/12/2011 5:39 AM, wrote:
On Mar 10, 3:07 pm, wrote:

So Dan can think what he wants about conservatives and
generosity and use a study here and there to support his belief. But my
life experience and my reading on the subject has convinced me if you
need help from someone the last person you go to is the most conservative.


Hawke



Dan


Try reading the Rich and the Super Rich. I also grew up in Orange
County, Calif. That's a wealthy, white, conservative, stronghold. I have
lots of personal and family experience with conservative people with
money. There's lots of evidence that backs up my assertion.
The question is how strong is your evidence that conservatives are the
most generous people, one survey?

Hawke


I am beginning to believe you did not get a degree. Or maybe you are
one of those that do not improve their intellect by going to college.


Maybe I am. Although I doubt that the professors that I learned from
would think that is the case. Neither do people I meet have any trouble
knowing that I am an educated man.



We were talking about the relative degree of generosity between
liberals and conservatives. And I come up with facts and figures that
says that conservatives are more generous.


Actually, all you came up with is one study that said conservatives were
more generous than liberals. It generally takes a lot more research than
that to make one very confident about a claim.


And what do you do? You start talking about growing up in a well off
county and a book about " The Rich and Super Rich ". So explain what
that has to do with the comparative generosity of the average liberal
and conservative? In other words you want to change from discussing
liberals and conservatives to talking about rich people.
I hate to tell you this, but most liberals and conservatives do not
qualify to be discussed as " Rich " or " Super Rich ".


I hate to tell you but almost no one qualifies as being rich or super
rich whatever their political view. It's true we began by talking about
the study that claimed liberals are not as generous as conservatives.
It's also true that I changed that topic slightly from only between
liberal and conservative to wealthy or poor, which to me, didn't seem a
big leap. You said conservatives are more generous than liberals and I
added to that by saying rich are less generous than those with less. I
then just told you how I had personal experience with conservative rich
people and I included a book that supported my own experiences.


So did they teach you about Non Sequitors at the college you went to?



Well, I do know what a non sequitor is. But I don't think that changing
something being discussed from the generosity of conservative vs liberal
to the generosity of the rich vs poor would fall under the definition of
a non sequitor. Because moving from the former to the latter does
follow. It certainly seems germane to the initial subject being
discussed to me.

Hawke