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Default OT-Lobbyists Forge Letters In Derivatives Reform

On 2/16/2011 2:45 PM, Rich Grise wrote:
John R. Carroll wrote:
Rich Grise wrote:

People who are paid with tax dollars should be prohibited to unionize.


Why?
Prohibiting them from collective bargaining or otherwise organizing is a
violation of the very right to assemble that our constitution guarantee's.


Oh, they have a right to organize, assemble, or whatever, but they DO NOT
have a "right" to have my income confiscated from me to line their own
pockets.

That's the problem with socialism - its very foundation is institutionalized
theft.

Thanks,
Rich



Your problem is that you don't understand what it means to negotiate.
Try negotiating with someone holding you at gun point and asking you if
you will give them your valuables. You can't. The reason you can't is
the disparity of power between you and the person holding the gun. It's
the same with all negotiation. If you are not in a position of fairly
equal power you cannot bargain in good faith. When you are weak you have
to take whatever you are offered. By being able to bargain collectively
you put your side on the same footing as your opponent. That allows
actual negotiating to occur.

What you don't understand is that reason why republicans want to take
away the right to collectively bargain is because they know that will
allow them to dictate to workers and not have to negotiate with them.
That's what this is about. Destroying the ability of individuals to
bargain with management on an equal footing. You buy right into the
argument of those who want to negotiate in bad faith. You got suckered.

Hawke