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On Feb 8, 9:13*pm, F. George McDuffee gmcduf...@mcduffee-
associates.us wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:52:44 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck





wrote:
On Feb 8, 8:37*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


As to stimulus money, I know of no where in the Constitution
that the Fed has been given the power to regulate or
stimulate the economy. Certainly *not by taxing working
people, and then redistributing the money to other people.
The working people who actually do useful work *have been
damaged quite a lot by that reckless spending.


Where do you think tax money goes?


The government collects money from you in the form of taxes and fees.
The government then spends that money. Perhaps they spend some of it
at your place of business, perhaps some of it goes directly to you
through some government program or another, but the rest goes to
someone else. That is redisttribution of money. That is what
governments do.


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Its worse than you think. *Below is an email I sent to my
Representative and Senators in Congress.

----- start of email -----
Yet another reason to vote NO on increasing the National
Debt Limit. *Indeed, legislation to increase the debt limit
should not even be considered or allowed on the floor of
either house, where it just might pass.

http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/...n_debbie_stabe...
snip
The Charging America Forward Act, first proposed last
summer, would provide customers with a $7,500 rebate for
plug-in electric vehicles, offer businesses tax credits for
purchasing plug-in hybrid trucks, expand a tax credit for
the installation of charging stations and renew a
public-private partnership to boost advanced battery
production.

Vice President Joe Biden last month suggested rebates could
replace tax credits as part of the Obama administration's
three-part plan to put 1 million electric vehicles on the
road by 2015, and Stabenow says her legislation will benefit
Michigan.
snip

Why should I or any other taxpayer give $7,500 to anyone to
buy an electric car? *Even worse, why should the government
of the United States BORROW $7,500 to give to anyone to buy
an electric car. *It should be noted that the actual cost to
the Treasury/Taxpayers would be considerably more than
$7,500 because of the overhead expenses.

The only way to stop this profligate and reckless spending,
short of total economic collapse, is to refuse to raise the
debt limit, with or without the Toomey payment priority
legislation.

While some of the motives behind this proposed subsidy, such
as a reduction in the need to import oil, are commendable
there appears to be a much simpler and cheaper alternatives.

One alternative is for Congress to override all NHTSA/DOT
and EPA regulations and preempt all state regulations, e.g.
California, that prevent the importation and sale of the
small and highly fuel efficient diesel cars that meet the
more stringent EEC standards. *As indicated in prior emails,
these overrides to be effective must be accompanied with
severe civil and criminal penalties, including prison time,
for evasion, obstruction, impediment, etc.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...pollution/l281...

The MPG numbers in the following articles are miles per
*IMPERIAL* gallon and must be converted to US MPG. *Seehttp://www.tdiclub.com/misc/conversions.htmland/orhttp://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/fuel-consumption-converter-d_850.html

FWIW
317 MPG Imperial = 317 * 0.833 = 264 MPG US
85.6 MPG Imp = 71.3 MPG US
80.7 MPG Imp = 67.2 MPG US

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...olkswagen/8293...
snip
That's VW's 21st-century streamliner, the XL1, honed not for
speed but to achieve an astonishing 313mpg.
snip

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...herford/829617...

These are production cars are available at dealers showrooms
in the UK.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...98652/The-most...

----- end of email -----

Feel free to use all, part or none if you want to write your
Congressmen.

To identify your Senators gotohttp://senate.gov/*To
identify your representative gotohttp://house.gov/. *Most
members of congress now have web mail which you can access
through the above sites. *Be sure and bookmark.

-- Unka George *(George McDuffee)
..............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).- Hide quoted text -

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Two questions George...

1) If YOU were our Chinese banker and saw the United States default on
its loans, would you lend us any more money?

2) How will YOU feed hundreds of millions of Americans when the
American economy collapses literally overnight after the credit dies
up?

TMT