"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
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"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:45:42 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:

It doesn't matter whether or
not the rise in CO2 is the cause of warming.

Sure it does. No problem can be solved without first finding at least
one culprit to blame. Once the causes/culprits/conspirators/etc are
identified, we can then move forward towards a solution.
Unfortunately, most of the energy "solutions" offered are variations
on either austerity programs, genocide, redistribution of wealth, or
indirect self-enrichment.

I hope that's a joke.

You expect "the market" -- which is driven more by profit than
altruism -- to provide a useful solution?

Yes,as it usually DOES provide solutions.
It's certain austerity programs and "redistribution" schemes don't.
They just make things worse.

Where do you come off claiming most of the solutions involve
"austerity programs, genocide, [or] redistribution of wealth". (I'm
not sure what you mean by "indirect self-enrichment". Dale Gribble
selling carbon offsets?) How does the gradual replacement of
carbon-producing energy sources with carbon-neutral or low-carbon
sources induce "austerity" or "genocide"?


Nobody has an easy answer to the energy problem that will scale well
and satisfy everyone's requirements. That means that the status quo
will remain until the day we run out of oil.

Which is what the oil companies want. Why should we give into them,
when there /are/ solutions?

What's this "we" nonsense? "We" use what resources we have until better
ones prove practical and are accepted by the free market,not by forcing
"solutions" on people,that turn out to be regressive and counterproductive.
(like MBTE,ethanol)

you must be a socialist/communist.
there's always some folks who think they know better how everybody else
should live.


We've also been here before. During the 17th century, England had an
energy crisis of sorts when it ran out of wood, which was needed for
ship construction and heating. That's when the 14th century ban on
coal burning was magically lifted and England switched to coal.

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com...mentalism-in-1
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I suspect something similar will happen with nuclear power. When the
demand appears, the "problems" with nuclear will magically disappear.

They apparently already have. See...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor

Of course, very little is being done about it.

BECAUSE of gov't restictions,manipulation of the free market forces.

But it remains that nuclear,solar,wind,geothermal electric sources are
STILL no practical replacement for petroleum powered autos and small
trucks.



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