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Default Inspectors are not evil

On Feb 2, 9:44*am, Limp Arbor wrote:
On Feb 1, 6:55*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:





On 02/01/2011 05:53 PM, HeyBub wrote:


Limp Arbor wrote:
I had my electrical inspection yesterday for my whole house re-wire.


The guy came around 10 and checked every outlet with a plug-in three
light tester.
Pulled a few outlets to make sure I didn't cut the wires too short.
Pulled a few switch covers to make sure I switched the black wires.
Checked the operation of every GFCI: kitchen, basement, Lavs, and
garage.
Made sure my stapling was adequate.
Checked for grounding screws on every metal box. (I used mostly
plastic)


Failed me for:
more than one cable entering a handy box with an outlet
self- tapping sheet metal screws used for grounding (I ran out of
green screws)
ceiling box with three 12ga wires


I told him I was going to fix it all right now. *A couple of box
extensions and green screws and I was done. *He called me around 3:30
and said he was finished with his last inspection and asked if I was
done. *He actually stopped back that day and passed my job. *This
saved me from having to call and schedule a re-inspection and maybe
getting a different guy and another day off from work. *He was very
helpful and was just making sure it was done right.


Maybe my town is different but this is the third permit I've pulled
and had inspected and never had any problems. *They are doing exactly
what they should be doing, making sure work is done properly and the
house is safe. *I don't know if others have had problems but I've
never had an inspector needlessly fail a job because he was out to get
me.


The inspector failed you for using the wrong color/tapping screws and you
don't consider him evil?


And what's this about only one cable per box? How do you daisy-chain
outlets?


And how much was your tribute in gold and treasure?


Spawn of the devil, I'd say.


one cable per *HANDY* box. *perfectly right. *a handy box doesn't have
enough volume for 4x 14AWG conductors, a ground, and a device.


http://ecmweb.com/nec/code-basics/el..._calculations/


typical handy box is 13 in^3


you have 4 (hot & neutral) + 2 (yoke & device) + 1 (ground) "conductors"
(add 1 if your inspector considers a romex clamp "internal" but I would not)


7x 14 AWG conductors requires min. 14 in^3


you may think it's BS but per the NEC the inspector was correct


I'd have used a 1900 box instead if surface mount, or a deep single gang
box if on a stud.


nate


nate


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What surprised me was he said I cut put an extension on the handy box
(which I did) or replace them with plastic boxes.

I thought that exposed boxes in basements and garages had to be
metal. *He said no. *He also said I didn't need to use conduit to run
the wire down the cement walls, I could have just stapled NM to a 1x2
Tapcon'd to the wall.

He even said my junction boxes in the attic didn't need to be metal.
The question I didn't think of at the time is do they make a plastic
cover for plastic junction boxes?


if it's a single gang, yes. similar to typical builder grade
receptacle/switch plates, probably available in white, ivory, and
brown.

nate