On Jan 14, 11:33*pm, Evan wrote:
On Jan 14, 4:41*pm, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:





On Jan 14, 10:54*am, Frank Kurz wrote:

On 13/01/2011 4:56 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:

On Jan 13, 7:46 am, nick *wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:22 pm, Smitty *wrote:

In article
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All I claimed was that such things would not be
required if
there was not a trend of accidents...

Bzzt. Incorrect. GFCIs became law for one reason: Someone who stood to
make tens of millions of dollars selling them lobbied for the law.. There
is no trend of accidents.

I have seen GFCI prevent many accidents over the years but I have also
seen them bypassed as well.
where back to the people who get zapped are the ones using frayed
extension cords or cords with grounds cut off and plugged in back
wards etc etc.
Every time you read an electrocution report in any of the trade
magazines the individual has done something to cause the accident.
latest article was on a farm where pressure washer was totally
corroded safety shields off and *no ground and gfci bypassed wonder
why some one died.

So exactly what is the "maintenance" on a basic sprinkler system? *I'm
asking because I'm installing sprinklers in the garage I'm building..
I ran water pipes off the main cold coming in and I bought some of
those sprinklers with the little expansion glass pieces in the
centers. *You certainly can't test tripping one of them because then
you have to replace it.

In our neck of the woods you'd require a back-flow preventer on your
sprinkler system to avoid contamination of the domestic supply. *That
has to be inspected annually. *Check with your local AHJ regarding any
further requirements. *You may be required to interconnect your smoke
alarms to a flow switch. *If it's a heated garage and depending on your
location, you may require a low temperature alarm. *In fact it might not
be a bad idea to have one anyway and interconnect it to your monitored
security system.

So, about how many people have any kind of security system
in their house? *They're pretty rare here in small-town Midwest.

Cindy Hamilton

That is a **** poor excuse... *Do you have door locks on your doors
in small-town Midwest too? *Or is the town so small and safe that
everyone would be on red alert the moment a strange car pulled off
the main road at the blinking traffic signal at the one intersection?

Of course we have locks on the doors. We also have a very low
crime rate; security systems seems like expenditure for very
little return. Not that I think you're interested, but here's a
crime map for my area:

http://arborweb.com/articles/crime_maps/

I live in the lower right corner.

Wow... *Sadly the ridiculous things that are being offered as
challenges and/or excuses against requiring automatic fire sprinklers
in homes are surprising me... *Which shouldn't, I mean airbags became
a requirement in cars because people were failing to use the
seatbelts...
In many accidents the combination of airbag and seatbelt will save
your life...

I was just curious about how many people have security systems. My
previous house had a really crappy one; the previous owner was some
kind of paranoid cheapskate. It kept going off by itself, so we
disconnected it.

My 1948 house probably will never be retrofit with sprinkler systems,
and I think a security system is unlikely while I live there.

Cindy Hamilton