On Jan 11, 6:57*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 1/11/2011 10:43 AM, harry wrote:
On Jan 11, 3:02 pm, "Pete *wrote:
Kurt Ullman wrote:
In articleJf6dnYyRaoTrCLbQnZ2dnUVZ_hSdn...@earthlink .com,
* *wrote:
* Which is largely BS because for the most part these records are sealed
by Federal and state law.
Laws which can be changed, that surely is the point. *Requiring *schools
that expel someone for violent or threatening behavior to have to report
that and a judge would rule on adding that person to the no-guns list also
seems worth exploring--again, they could challenge that later. *Over and
over we see these cases where someone offered plenty of signs they were
heading for a serious crackup, and nobody did anything.
* * Until the laws are changed this is still a BS argument. *Doubt this
would work even with your quite reasonable additions. While there are
great indicators that these things are going to happen (in hindsight),
they don't work because they are not either specific or sensitive
enough. For every person who has these things and actually does
something there are literally millions that don't. I don't know that we
are ready as a society to do this.
* * *I have been a Psych RN for about 25 years now. Violence prediction
has pretty much always been an area of intense research. Yet, we still
can't predict which individual will get violent. Heck, we can't even do
that with any precision on the in-patient until where a person is under
24 hour watch by trained professionals.
You're getting at the fact that there is simply nothing that can ever be
done to prevent this kind of one-off nutcase attack. If guns were not
available he would have used knives, if knives had not been available he
would have used firebombs, etc. We simply have to accept the fact this
this kind of event has always happened throughout human history and will
continue to happen, and is the price we pay for not living in a society
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Guns are easy to use, hard to eascape from and unecessary.
It takes preparation to make a firebomb and knowledge to make an
effective one.
The Resistance did a pretty good job of utilizing firebombs during WWII. :-)
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The resistance didn't win the war. They were sustained by outside
help, material and moral. Just as the resistance in Iraq is sustained
by Iran.
In Afghanistan by Pakistan. Without outside help a truely ruthless
police force can soon beat a few civilians. Don't let Hollywood (and
Pinewood studios) carry you awy Duf.
But here is a real heroine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violette_Szabo