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Vic Smith wrote:

I don't have any numbers, but seems to me when an armed "civvie" stops
mayhem, it's usually an off-duty cop.
Seems to you? Not eaxctly a compelling statistical argument. A n=1
in statistic terms.

The armed civvie in Tucson was immaterial - he got there after the
mayhem was over.

The armed civvie was one of the people who tackled the perp and sat
on him until the cops arrived (some time later on). Hardly after the
mayhem over.

Personally I have no problem with civilians carrying, as long as they
have training.
But when a wacko can get off 30 rounds in maybe 6 seconds,
the party is over pretty fast.

Where did you get this number other than from the thin air? I haven't
seen any thing that gives any timeframe.

An unarmed old lady stopped this guy.

--Vic

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