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Joel Koltner[_2_] Joel Koltner[_2_] is offline
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Default Bye, Bye! On Jan 1

"flipper" wrote in message
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"In general" government routinely screws people and this
administration has that as their proclaimed core principle called
'spread the wealth' and 'social justice': the process of deliberately
picking groups to 'screw' for the purpose of bribing the others.


Hmm, that is a rather interesting premise... do you really think the
administratoin is that scheming? Or they aren't even aware of what they're
doing?

I dispute your premise. The 'reasonable people' didn't vote for it.


Well, that's a representative democracy for you, I guess...

Those people don't care about principles, law, the Constitution, or
process and Obama explicitly said so when the matter was brought up,
proclaiming that 'the people', a proxy term for himself, don't care
about 'the process'.


At least he thinks Steve Jobs ought to be rich? :-)

The HSA bit here seems like something that should be easy for Republicans to
fix, though -- with a very simple bill that just reverts HSAs to
pre-Obamacare
terms and nothing more, what Democrat would stand there and claim that, no,
it's better if you can't save as much for yourself?


Are you KIDDING me? "For yourself?" Their whole PREMISE is that
GOVERNMENT should 'do it for you' and to hell with "yourself."


Some Democrats -- and even a few Republicans -- may believe that, but they're
not going to go on public record starting as much...

They're the ones you think give a flying fig about your 'costs' and
doing things "for yourself?"


I like to believe that some of them do, yes. See, e.g., blue dog democrats...

It's only 'viable' if you think government has unlimited powers to do
whatever the hell it feels like and then send you the bill for it.


These days I kinda think they do -- and they have for many decades now.

---Joel