On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 13:49:50 -0500, wrote:

None of which matters since by all admissions Obama was born to
a British subject of Kenya and an American female just turned
adult. Therefore whether he was born in Hawaii or on the Moon
he doesn't qualify according to the Constitution.

Pardon??????
His mother was a US Citizen. If he was born in Hawaii of a US Citizen
mother of ANY age, and the father was ANYBODY AT ALL, he is a citizen
by birth, and qualifies according to your constitution.


No..not true before 1986
..

Sorry. But you may wish to look that up.

Here..this may be of some help....

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

If you're going to be involved in government in the United States,
citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a
citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a
citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in
government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the
citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required
tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at
birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or
naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction
thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they
reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the
Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that
fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create
clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the
Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the
Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes
citizenship.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the
Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are
"citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a
citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of
the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are
citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen
and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a
U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and
lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage
cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not
provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien
and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in
the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service
included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of
an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the
jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a
diplomat, for example, from this provision.

From another site....

"
"Prior to 14 November 1986, the physical presence requirement in this
case was ten years (instead of five) -- including five years (instead of
two) spent after the parent's 14th birthday. The requirement was reduced
in 1986, but the change did not retroactively make US citizenship
available to people born previously who did not meet the old
requirement. (Congress's intent not to make this change retroactive was
affirmed in 1988 with the passage of Public Law 100-525, § 8(d), 102
Stat. 2619). " same source as above

--- So, when Obama was born in 1961, in order for him to be born a US
citizen his mom would have had to be 19yrs at his birth (14yrs plus the
five years required to be old enough to pass on citizenship at birth).
Thus, he would have naturalized his citizenship, making him not natural
born. I believe it was Ted Kennedy who sponsored the law change that
reduced these requirements, but for some reason it was not put in there
to cover those before the law went into effect, including Obama.

Gunner

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