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Default Better low-flush toilets

On 12/10/2010 8:51 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 10, 3:19 pm, Steve wrote:
On 12/10/2010 7:43 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:



On Dec 9, 11:43 pm, Steve wrote:
On 12/8/2010 10:59 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


On Dec 8, 4:44 pm, Jeff wrote:
On 12/8/2010 2:12 PM, David Nebenzahl wrote:


Having just replaced a toilet for a friend yesterday, just wanted to
plop in my observations here for those who might be looking to do the same.


The toilet being replaced was a low-flush one, not very old, but in a
basement bath with a history of clogging problems. So my friend got a
new low-flush unit which was supposed to be much better at disposing of
waste. When I got a look at the tank I could see why: instead of the
normal outlet and flapper, this one had a 4" opening, significantly
larger. Which means that the water whooshes into the toilet a lot faster.


We'll see if it makes a difference.


I don't remember the make, but he got it at Home Despot, so I assume
it's available pretty much anywhere.


One weird thing, though: instead of being at the bottom of the tank like
you'd expect, the flapper sits a couple of inches up on an extension.


More gravity working for you. Water height.


Got a Kohlar Cimmaron 1.28 here (literally). Beats the pants off my old
toilet. Never clogs. Flushes super quick. Amazing.


Jeff


This is obviously by design. Seems strange to leave that much water in
the bottom of the tank; there must be some reason for this.
(Hydrodynamics?)


I recently installed a 1.28 gpf American Standard toilet. 3 inch
flapper, large siphon hole. Flapper sits pretty much on the bottom of
the tank.


It flushes great, but I've got a concern about what happens after the
waste leaves the bowl.


We get roots in our pipes and end up with partial blockages and
gurgling toilets once every year or so. $35 to rent a 100 foot snake
clears the problem. The money is nothing, it's the pick-up, clean-up
(yuck!) and drop off that's a pain.


Anyway, my concern is that with 20% less water moving waste through
the pipe I'm going to get blockages sooner since things won't be
moving along quite as quickly and could get caught sooner.


What I save on water will be dwarfed by what it'll cost to replace the
sewer pipe to eliminate the problem.


just flush it twice. Or get an old 3.5gal toilet from a sale.


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"just flush it twice. "


Right. Like it make sense to upgrade your toilet for better efficiency
(and for other reasons in my case) and then to flush it, wait for the
tank to fill up and then flush it again.


well no one's forcing these people to use these "modern" toilets, then
bitch about them. I find perfectly fine and usable 3.5 gallon units at
sales all the time. I always use them especially when it is a long run
to the main or septic tank.

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Let me run the purchase of somebody else's used toilet past the wife.

I'll let you know how that works out. ;-)


Does she think all the public toilets and hotel toilets are all brand new?

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