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Jeff Thies wrote:

On 12/8/2010 7:28 AM, wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:07 pm, wrote:
"Jeff Thies" wrote in ...
This is great! Let's get some lead back in the gas too. And let's get
some more pro consumption legislation going. We need to use more energy
and water! There's plenty of both for the time being and Jesus will just
make more later. That's what the Moonies believe, you can read it all in
the Washington Times. Go Moonies! I think Sarah Palin is down with this
too. Hey Bub, good enough for you too?

If only this were a joke. Sadly, a lot of Americans figure it's their
right
and/or duty to consume all they possibly can, shortages and pollution
other
people will have to deal with later just are not their problem.

What happened to convince so many people that their worth as human beings
depends on how big and wasteful their possessions are?

I saw a guy parking a Hummer awhile back, took him several tries to get it
sort of into the parking space. Then down climbed this little
pot-bellied,
balding guy, looked like he couldn't twist the top off a ketchup bottle by
himself--it was such a perfect clich that I had trouble not laughing. I
doubt he had ever taken that thing off the pavement, and it probably
replaced a Corvette when his wife told him to get something more
practical.

At least he's honest about what he does. How about Al Gore, who
lives in multiple
mansions and flies around in private jets? He uses more energy in a
year than that
Hummer guy will use in a lifetime.


Al Gore thinks carbon, not energy. I have a problem with that. The
energy consumption of the rich is over the top. I was at a friends
mansion a while back and asked the wife how many rooms they had, she did
not know. I looked around at the fountains running and the mood lights,
their house idling used more energy than mine running full out.

Now it's OK for a few of the wealthy to consume a lot, but there is a
cost to all for that. If we all consumed the same amount we would wind
up like the Mayans who created a dead zone around their cities. When the
zone expanded beyond what could be supported, they collapsed.

Al's message about global warming is correct. Just because the messenger
has issues that doesn't mean the message is wrong.

Jeff

Good book "Collapse" starts with Wyoming and goes back in time.
Just read 150 pages so far but it resonates.

Wyoming
1 a state in the western central U.S.; pop. 493,782; capital, Cheyenne;
statehood, July 10, 1890 (44). Acquired, in part, by the Louisiana
Purchase in 1803, it gave the vote to women in 1869, the first state to
do so.

Seem 20 years ago a prosperous state now # 2 from the bottom.

Good Read.

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Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden

Daniel Moynihan and Dennis Kucinich in 2012 !