"Rich Grise" wrote in message
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Stormin Mormon wrote:

Isn't a vice a fancy term for a bad habit? For example, someone who
smokes and drinks has vices.

In the vocabulary of the puritan these are vices, yes. ;-) To me, they're
just some of the pleasures life makes available to us. ;-)

BTW, I know you're talking about the difference from a vise. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich


Now I'm confused, would nipple clamps be considered a vice or a vise?