On 11/12/2010 7:40 PM Smitty Two spake thus:

In article ,
David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 11/12/2010 8:13 AM Smitty Two spake thus:

In article , "Worn Out Retread"
wrote:

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
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On Nov 11, 8:37 am, "Bill" wrote:

"Bill who putters" wrote in message

Seems lately my appliance failures are due to electronic
failures. Dish washer now gone bad twice (Maytag quietseries
300.) Anyone know of appliances with mechanical control? Gas
stove with all the heat is just waiting to fail. Upside
washing dishes by hand not so bad not quick but not too bad.
May be cleaner and use less water too.

Also electronic controls *always* are on and always use
electricity to power them. When I can't find something with an
old fashioned on/off switch (uses NO electricity when off), I
add a switch.

Then some things can't be taken apart without destroying them
lately. They make the plastic parts so they permanently lock
when snapped together. (They want to make darn sure you always
use a little electricity!) In those cases, I plug it into an
external switch so I can totally turn it off when not in use.

Some of the companies which make these products also make
electric company power generation equipment. I would imagine
that if millions of people fill their homes with gadgets which
always use electricity, then the electric companies would need
to add on more power generating capacity/equipment? $$

Boy, are you cynicalG.

But is he wrong??

The amount of quiescent power consumed by electronic appliances is
negligible.

Wrong.

Sez you.

Nope, sez Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. I assume they know a
little bit more about the subject than I do.

Then you quoted a source saying "nobody knows for sure." And, as far
as I'm concerned, 5% *is* negligible, since it represents less than a
month-to-month deviation, anyway. 10%, absolutely, positively is pure
fiction.

I see; you're a better authority than LBNL. Just wanted to make sure I
got that right.

By the way, the link you snipped was http://standby.lbl.gov/faq.html.


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