View Single Post
  #54   Report Post  
Posted to alt.home.repair
Steve Barker[_6_] Steve Barker[_6_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,733
Default 15A outlets on 20A circuits

On 10/13/2010 4:44 PM, RBM wrote:
"Steve wrote in message
...
On 10/13/2010 9:35 AM, bud-- wrote:
Steve Barker wrote:
On 10/12/2010 6:29 PM, RBM wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:55:15 -0400, wrote:


wrote in message
...

Last week, I posted about running 12/2 wire for a kitchen reno. Well
all the circuits are run. I decided on running all 12/2 instead of
12/3 and splitting circuits. Looking ahead to outlets, had a
question.
I think I know the answer, but just wanted to confirm.

I ran 4 new circuits for the fridge, microwave/range hood, and
counter
outlets. Am I allowed to use regular 15A outlets? For the counter
outlets, I am using regular 15A Decora and GFI's, and for the
fridge,
microwave just wanted to use regular outlets, like the kind you can
get a 10Pk for like $5 at Lowes.

15 amp outlets are fine. The refrigerator doesn't need to be GFCI
protected,
but all the counter outlets do. A 15 amp GFCI outlet has a 20 amp
feed
through


He is NOT using a GFCI on the fridge. Read it again.
NEVER use a GFCI on a fridge or freezer.

I misread that, but just for clarification, the Nec requires GFCI
protection
by receptacle location, not by what you're planning to plug into the
outlet.
Every receptacle in a garage, or unfinished part of a basement
requires GFCI
protection, even if you plan to plug in a fridge or freezer


UNLESS.... there's always an exception.


All but one of the exceptions disappeared in the 2008 NEC. (The
remaining one is for alarm panels.)

The NEC panel does not see a problem with refrigeration on GFCI. In
commercial kitchens plug-in refrigeration (15/20A, 120V) is required to
be on GFCIs. The UL allowed leakage is around 0.5mA if I remember right.


I only know what my local AHJ goes by. And that is the 2005 version. They
just switched (last year) from the 1994 version. I'm sure there'll be no
switching again for quite some time.G

Also, i think some of the confusion comes from the interpretation of the
term "single outlet". SINGLE outlet does NOT mean a duplex outlet. And
SINGLE (non gfci) outlets are allowed in basement and garages on a circuit
for sump pumps and refrigerators. Whereas nothing else can be plugged
into them without unplugging the device the outlet was intended for. Has
this been eliminated for the 2008 version?

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email


Yes it has. There are no longer any exceptions



guess i'll be breaking that rule then. I will NOT put a sump pump on a
gfci. period.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email