On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:54:53 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

"David R. Birch" fired this volley in
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On 10/9/2010 8:02 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
"Michael fired this volley in
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I though
we were encouraged to buy them to save polar bears or some such!

Yes! We save polar bears. But we kill babies' brains with the
mercury in the new CFLs. It's a fair trade, after all -- at least
according to the "greenies". It's the "standard offer": Pay more,
pay an additional "impact" fee FOR paying more, and get less product
life and environmental damages, to boot. (don't ever let them
convince you that consumer- quality CFLs last longer than
incandescents)

Wait! I thought these things were supposed to SAVE the environment!
Oh... yeah... save CO2, add Hg. That sounds fair.

I used to put a 40 watt incandescent bulb in my porch light and have
to replace it every 2-3 months. It is always left on. I replaced it
with a 13 watt CFL and wrote the date on the base. It lasted 23
months. 4 of the old ones cost a buck, the same as what I paid for the
CFL, plus about 1/3 the wattage used.

I don't like that they have mercury in them, but I don't have to take
many to the recycling yard because they last so long.

David


OTOH, David, I've got "globe" 40W CFLs in a bathroom mirror bar. They
last (historically) roughly four months, and have to be replaced -- guess
with WHAT, when we run out of the 12-pack of CFLs we bought for the
fixture.

They're five times the cost of incandescents, and last 1/4 as long.

Are they Feit brand? I had horrible luck with those, but they
replaced them (free) when I bitched. I'm getting 3-5 years on the 23W
(100W replacement) dimmable CFLs from China, ULA brand. $2/ea
delivered via eBay in '06.

And I'm just now starting (2 mos.) to use the Satco brand of 13W
daylight (5000K) and cool white (4100K) types. The daylighters are
nearly as bright as the 23W soft white dimmables, and I love that they
do _not_ put out that amber glow crap which warm/soft-white and incans
do. They're more compact, so they fit in the pole lamps better.

Oh, I'm getting a couple years or more out of the GE 23W CFLs, too.

In electricals, I won't buy Feit or Lights of America (Home Depot) any
more, period.

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