On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 01:56:40 -0500, Don Foreman
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:51:17 -0700, wrote:

They may need bodyguards for their staff, and anti-terrorist features added to the
construction. No matter how they proceed, they're going to be paying a
high price for the free speech rights of the ignorant.

"Ignorant" here obviously defined as anyone with whom you disagree.

In theory willful ignorance is curable. People who wallow in it
deserve ridicule.

The New Jersey contingent, Rangersuck and Ed, asserts otherwise. They
assert that those affected won't care, life lurches on in Manhattan.

You've oversimplified their points, as has become your lame habit.

They live a lot closer to Manhattan than I do and far closer than you
do. If the survivors of the atrocity really don't care then I am
content to rest my case ahd shut the hell up.

The hell you will. You couldn't help but know about survivors and
families who vehemently disagree with you.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/sept...e-20100825-apx

"I lost a 23-year-old son, a paramedic who gave his life saving
Americans and their values," Talat Hamdani said, and supporting the
Islamic center and mosque "has nothing to do with religion. It has to
do with standing up for our human rights, including freedom of
religion."

http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/201...de_center.html

“What is happening to this country," asks Robert McIlvaine, whose son
and namesake was killed that day. “It is so sad that people would use
a simple issue of religious tolerance to spew hate and anger and
create fear.”

http://www.cbs6albany.com/articles/l...tatum-met.html

"I think it's important not to give into the hysteria. We do have
religious freedom. I know the wounds are still very open, me myslef
included but you have to look at the big picture. You can't practice
these freedoms only when it suits us. You have to practice them all
along" says Tatum."

Those folks demonstrated more wisdom in a single paragraph each than
you could muster if you spent the rest of your life writing on this
subject.

Oh wait, I bet you'll say that they're only a minority, and that
survivors and victims' families should all have a vote on the issue.
Heck, maybe we could relitigate a few other 200+ year-old principles
as well, eh?

You obviously think there might be a few that do care. You label them
as ignorant. Tawk about a model of tolerance!

I will always be intolerant of ignorance. I can understand it coming
from some. Say, people who are working so hard that they don't have
time to be enlightened. But from a retired old fart who hopes to prove
that he's intelligent, and who has time to cherry-pick crap to support
his indefensible position? Forget it. Readers here cut you way more
slack than you deserved. Besides, any notion that a cull volunteer
should be lecturing on tolerance is beyond ludicrous. Or did you fail
to notice that the cull "list" is reported by your friend to contain
names of pretty much everyone who makes fun of him?

Free speech is not free; it does have a price that someone pays

Unfortunately you're not the one paying it in this case. Instead
you're predictably running up the costs for others. I've got news for
you - you'll never be happy regardless. You'll remain irrationally
fearful and insulted until you bite the dirt. Why? Because you work at
it.

There's a bit of justice when those who invoke free
speech to express things that upset others might need to have paid or
expect to pay some dues.

As I predicted, you're gloating over your handiwork. You may yet get
to pay though. Thanks to folks like you, the stock of Gingrich and
Palin et al is probably up. That alone ought to have made you shut the
hell up if only you gave a crap.

Gotta give you credit as an inspired usenet troll and poor lonesome
isolated anthrophobic pathetic soul. You did hook me into a response
here,

The only thing you've been "hooked" into is writing self-destructive
responses to valid criticism and ridicule.

Don "the weasel" Foreman
Fridley MN when we're not near Starbuck, MN. We're easy to find in
both locations. We're good neighbors and we have wonderful neighbors.

In your mind you may be a great citizen. But in reality you've made a
conscious and diligent effort here to fan the flames of "hysteria".
Note that's a quote from a victim's family member. Or is he a troll as
well?

Wayne