Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ignoramus12820" wrote in
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On 2010-08-19, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 05:15:57 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/1902372658.html
Run Away! Run Away!
That first picture tells you all you need to know.
First impression: crack or meth head?
(buying a new substandard mill
What other alternatives are there in a small mill?
What alternatives are there that do not cost a lot more?
I have a Taig because I was told it's a decent quality mill for its
size and price. To be quite frank I disagree. It requires constant
adjustment, and the Z axis is horrible in my opinion. When I talked
to Taig about the clamp on ways they told me its should be within a
hundredth along its length. You have got to be kidding me. That is
0.01" No wonder it binds up sometimes. Yeah I know its made right
here, and that was another draw, but if I had bought a cheap Chinese
mill instead of cheap American mill I would atleast have expected to
spend a lot of time tweaking and adjusting to get decent work out of
it. The Sieg mills are atleast heavier and more robust, although I
have really only looked at the SX4 which is a little larger machine
than the SX1.
Don't say Grizzly. A lot of their machines are identical to the Sieg
machines and made in the same factory. Just have a different label.
Same with the HF machines and several other companies. Even Jet and
Enco machines (for a large step up in price) can be found under other
labels with different color paint.
Whether you have any respect for that poster is not the question to
me, but rather what other alternatives are there in small machines?
Sherline? They are smaller than the Taig mills.
Not everybody can afford to chunk out 6 to 40 grand for a brand new
big name machine, and not everybody has the ability to spend months
retrofitting a used clapped out machine or the time. Guys like Gunner
do not count. I am sure he could refit a clapped out machine to like
new in a day, but that is what he does for a living. The rest of us
have to learn every single thing one issue at a time and hope guys
like him will be kind enough to guide us in the right direction., Nor
do most of us have the ability to look at a used machine and know if
it can be fixed up for a reasonable amount of time or money. It's a
lot safer to buy a small new mill to do small projects. It may not be
great, but it will run.
I asked recently on the ZONE what a good slightly larger step up
machine would be from my Taig. Something not too much more money and
I specifically said, not the Sieg machines because their working
envelope was not much bigger if at all. I did not get one single
response. So I'll ask here.
What is a decent quality small step up from my Taig.
I was considering a new Sieg X3 CNC mill earlier in the year but in the
end I bought a 2nd hand Denford Triac PC from a machine tool dealer. I
had contacted a well known UK vendor of the Sieg X3 CNC and they would
do a demo but wouldn't or couldn't provide any contacts of existing
users and I didn't get any reply to a similar question on the UK
engineering news group. I had concerns about the column rigidity of the
X3 and have subsequently had that confirmed by another with the non CNC
X3. The Triac is about the same spec but seems more heavily constructed
and the column depth where it bolts to the base is about 3 times that of
the X3. I'm refitting it with a break out board and will by using EMC2.
The Triac is fairly common in the UK but I understand they're available
in the US also. Mines came with quick release tooling which I think is
standard, the basic spindle taper is a ISO30. The Triac is also
available as standard with an ATC.