In , on Sun, 15 Aug 2010
14:42:40 -0700, Gunner Asch, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:32:17 -0700, Fairy Tales Aren't Real
wrote:

PeteC is a prime example of the militant atheist. Not only does he not
believe..but anyone who does is evil and a member of a dangerous "cult".

How would you classify someone who kills someone else because they
believe it is the will of their god? Jews killing Muslims. Christians
killing Jews. Muslims killing Christians. All because their view of god
is the "correct" one. How's that's NOT dangerous??? blink, blink

Agnostics could [n't] care less if one believes or not. Atheists on the
other hand....are completely satisified that anyone who does believe is
mentally ill, retarded, an evil cult member etc etc etc.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

So they are as locked into their belief system as any fringe christian.

I've already demonstrated that (most) atheists have open minds while
(most) christians are locked into their dogma (often known as "THE Way").
There is no "atheist belief system."

You have made the Claim that most atheists have an open mind. Period.
And of course most Religious are locked into their religion. Thats a
given, and not just Christians. There are loads of religions besides
Christians.

Um... yes, as I said about 6 paragraphs up. It went like this:

How would you classify someone who kills someone else because they
believe it is the will of their god? Jews killing Muslims. Christians
killing Jews. Muslims killing Christians. All because their view of [the
same] god is the "correct" one. How's that's NOT dangerous??? blink, blink

As Ive mentioned before..Atheism is no more and no less than just
another religious belief system.

Repeating it yet one more time doesn't make it any truer than it was
last time. Please provide substantiation of the codification of atheism,
beyond just repeating it.

Who ever claimed Atheism is "codefied"?

You did. In saying it's a religious belief system. By definition,
religious belief _systems_ are codified. You also stated there's some
kind of "atheist gospel" which would also be a claim that atheism is
codified.

cod·i·fy (kd-f, kd-)
tr.v. cod·i·fied, cod·i·fy·ing, cod·i·fies
1. To reduce to a code: codify laws.
2. To arrange or systematize.

But its obvious to the outsider.

Please point me to this "atheist gospel" that's so obvious to everyone
else.

You seem to verify most of my points, though you attempt to use the fact
that "christians" are locked into their beliefs while attempting to
minimize the fact that so are atheists.

No one ever claimed that the religious are NOT locked into their
bleeves. You on the other hand...make the attempt to avoid admitting
that atheists are also locked (and often as ferverently and militantly
as bleevers) into theirs.

Read The Intention Experiment wherein atheists are truly and earnestly
trying to figure out how "good vibes" sometimes work better than prayer.
Metaphysical matters like that are avoided like the plague by the
religious, yet actively explored by atheists. How is seeking the truth,
no matter how "weird" it turns out to be, "locked into a belief system?"
How many Christians/Jews/Muslims do you suppose would ever earnestly seek
the answer to why prayer is at times less effective than "good vibes?"

Prayer works. Good vibes work. Why? See, once you start hinting at
the fact that good vibes work even without a belief in a god, then you
have to start down the path to what role does god play in answering
prayers? The answer comes back, "apparently nothing." Not something
religious folk want to hear.

While your post is interesting for the outsider to help understand the
Atheist mindset..your denial is rather pitiful.

What denial? That there's some kind of codified religious belief
system for atheism? I've never seen an "atheist gospel," and don't
believe one exists. Since you keep stating that it does, maybe you can
provide a link.

Shrug

Indeed.