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In , on Sat, 14 Aug 2010
14:36:55 -0700, Gunner Asch, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:59:33 -0700, Fairy Tales Aren't Real
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In , on Wed, 11 Aug 2010
08:42:04 -0700, Gunner Asch,
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So it should be simple for you to provide evidence that there is no
God(s)

Id be happy as a lark to look at it.


As with AGW (and EVERYTHING else), those making the assertion have the
burden of proof. An atheist merely says, "I don't believe God is what
you say It is until you prove it to me.

"Prove It to me," says this lark.


Actually....most militant atheists claim that there is no possiblity of
there being a god(s).


I'd bet there's a smaller percentage of militant atheists than militant
dogmatists.

Its written in their gospel.


I'd sure like to see that. Can you point me to a link where I can
download it? Does it come in different flavors, such as KJV, etc.?
Which version do you recommend?

And they flatly refuse to believe in things that give strong evidence to
there being gods, angels and so forth. All "coincidence" or fantasy.


Read the Intention Experiment wherein atheists (read scientists) prove
that "good vibes" from strangers are more effective when it comes to
improvement in alcoholics, than prayer from congregation/family
members/friends. Matter of fact there are many such experiments where
"good vibes" equal or outperform prayer. Scientists may not CALL such
things by the same names, but they do investigate the REALITY of of such
coincidence.

They are so locked into their No God belief system that they cannot keep
an open mind.


You have that backwards. Religious folk are the ones with the closed
minds. Atheists (scientists) can explore the possibility that there is
more out there than what they already know and believe. Religious
dogmatists can never even consider anything (metaphysically speaking)
outside their own preconceived boxes. The replies in this thread
demonstrate exactly how open-minded the religiously dependent are.

Agnostics on the other hand....keep an open mind.


They do... unlike believers in any religious dogma that claims to be
"THE WAY." "DO IT THIS WAY, OR GO TO HELL." Is that what you conisider
an open mind?

How about, "There are many paths up the mountain." Does that resonate
at all with the followers of the God of Abraham? (Couched that way to
include the entire family of Judeo/Christian/Muslim beliefs all based on
the same diety... put that way to remind that even those who worship the
same god kill each other every day out of their insistence that their way
is correct while "the others" are "evil."
People with open minds find it sadly comical that all these people who
believe in the same loving God are killing each other in "his" name.

PeteC is a prime example of the militant atheist. Not only does he not
believe..but anyone who does is evil and a member of a dangerous "cult".


How would you classify someone who kills someone else because they
believe it is the will of their god? Jews killing Muslims. Christians
killing Jews. Muslims killing Christians. All because their view of god
is the "correct" one. How's that's NOT dangerous??? blink, blink

Agnostics could [n't] care less if one believes or not. Atheists on the
other hand....are completely satisified that anyone who does believe is
mentally ill, retarded, an evil cult member etc etc etc.


The two are not mutually exclusive.

So they are as locked into their belief system as any fringe christian.


I've already demonstrated that (most) atheists have open minds while
(most) christians are locked into their dogma (often known as "THE Way").
There is no "atheist belief system."

As Ive mentioned before..Atheism is no more and no less than just
another religious belief system.


Repeating it yet one more time doesn't make it any truer than it was
last time. Please provide substantiation of the codification of atheism,
beyond just repeating it.