Gunner Asch on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:12:30 -0700
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:30:04 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

cavelamb on Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:09:26 -0500
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
snipped to get to the point

Uh-huh. Who is the first to sign the loyalty oaths? Traitors and
Superpatriots...

Who's first at the anti-government rally? Traitors and
Superpatriots. Only the later are often called "agents in place".

That's technically true, pytor.
But it's in good company.


These guys organized, created an army, and won the day.
But had they lost they would all been hung as traitors.


"Treason never prospers.
for if it prospers, why
None dare call it treason."

What concerns me is the history of "agents" of the security organs
who are the loudest proponents of violence, used to ferret out the
malcontents and get them all in one place, so the Chekii can pick them
up in one fell swoop.
But you cant bee too paranoid.

Which is why the all the white supremist groups and virtually every
black group has long ben infiltrated by government agents.

LOL, my Dad knew a young "airman" who was really a Lieutenant
doing undercover work. He almost blew his cover, because he had money
at the end of the month. (Dad kept a copy of the guys "official"
portrait, when his cover personal got promoted to E-2. "Only
promotion I ever earned.")

Any "revolutionary" who is current on his dues, possibly is a
government spy. (The cliche has it that had it not been for the
Government spys paying their dues, that most "revolutionary" groups
would have gone broke.)

Another reason "leaderless resistiance" works so well.

Just as long as you remember that we have no leader and start
trying to give directions. Now just hush up and do as I said. (Time
Bandits)

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pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!