RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:33 am, wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:04 am, Han wrote:



wrote :
On Aug 11, 4:27 pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 11, 4:18 pm, Han wrote:
Metspitzer wrote
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Way To Go!
How come the media haven't caught up with the expletive deleted
"person
or
persons" who incited all this ruckus?
I hadn't really thought about that, but of course, they _should_ be
in the news as well. And put on a do-not-fly or
mandatory-body-cavity- search list.
But the airlines have to take some responsibility for such things
happening. They've lowered the baggage allowance and jacked prices,
so what do people do? Duh - they carry on way more stuff. I've
rarely seen someone get shot down for having a too large carry on
bag, and they never weigh them like they're supposed to do. When you
have a too big bag that's a bit too heavy, and everyone is doing it,
of course there's going to be too little space in the overhead
compartments and people are going to have a tough time
lifting/forcing them in there.
R
Except that from all indications, that isn;'t what happened. The
plane was not departing, it was arriving. The passenger supposedly
accidently hit the flight attendant while removing his bag and refused
to appologize, which started the incident.
I have no sympathy for this moron. There are Fed laws governing
unruly passengers and he could have followed procedures and called for
security to deal with the woman. Even if she were just detained for
an hour and questioned, that would have certainly made a lasting
impression on her for her actions. I've personally seen people
removed from planes for being abusive to flight attendents. A case
in point. Recently I was travelling back from West Palm Beach to
Philly. As the plane was loading, it became clear that there would
not be enough overhead storage for all the passengers. So the flight
attendents told people at some point on the jetway that from that
point on carry-on bags had to be checked to go in the cargo hold. I
did it and there is no charge. This woman started bitching about it,
insisting she had the right to carry the bag on, that her 80 year old
mother was meeting her and would now have to wait while her luggage
came out, etc. This continued onto the plane and even after she was
seated. Finally, they told her to take another airline and escorted
her off the plane. That plane was the last flight from WPB to Philly
that night. So, she must have wound up having to stay overnight.
The best part was the flight got in early and by the time I took a
quick bathroom stop and then got to baggage claim, the bags were
already coming off. That;s a far better solution, inconveniencing the
screw ball, rather than screwing up other passengers and possibly
endangering ground personnel.
What he did cost the airline significant money. It was reported on
the news last night that it costs $25K to restore the emergency chute
after deployment. Also, that plane was likely out of service for a
good deal of time and passengers waiting for it for the next flight
likely spent hours waiting, missed connections, meetings, etc.
The guy should pay the full cost for what he did and get convicted on
at least some of the charges.
I agree with all you say trader4, exept that the airline was at fault for
allowing too much carry-on
I haven't seen any evidence that the airline allowed on too much carry-
on or that was an issue. The plane had arrived at it's destination
and the passenger was removing her carry-on and somehow it hit the
flight attendant. That could happen without regard to how much carry-
on there was. For example, she could just pull it out with one hand,
and let it go swinging all over the place.

You're posting based on an erroneous time line of events. The guy was
clonked in the head at the beginning of the flight, was relieved of
his work duties (workmens comp claim, no doubt), and then started
drinking. If the guy were a known problem, the other attendants would
have stopped him from drinking, and/or had him go talk to the
captain. As the guy apparently had never snapped out before, they
didn't foresee a problem. Hindsight is 20/20, and everybody likes
playing Monday morning QB.

Oh, wow! The flight attendant might be able to claim a concussion, the
airline failed to treat him properly, sue the passenger and the airline...

The carry on luggage thing is not the direct cause of the problem, but
it is a contributing factor. It's frustrating to have people blocking
the aisle, delaying people and the flight, while they're trying to
stuff a too big/heavy bag in an overhead bin. Frustrated people do
stupid things.

R