On Aug 12, 11:33*am, wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:04*am, Han wrote:



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On Aug 11, 4:27*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 11, 4:18*pm, Han wrote:

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Way To Go!

How come the media haven't caught up with the expletive deleted
"person
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persons" who incited all this ruckus?

I hadn't really thought about that, but of course, they _should_ be
in the news as well. *And put on a do-not-fly or
mandatory-body-cavity- search list.

But the airlines have to take some responsibility for such things
happening. *They've lowered the baggage allowance and jacked prices,
so what do people do? *Duh - they carry on way more stuff. *I've
rarely seen someone get shot down for having a too large carry on
bag, and they never weigh them like they're supposed to do. *When you
have a too big bag that's a bit too heavy, and everyone is doing it,
of course there's going to be too little space in the overhead
compartments and people are going to have a tough time
lifting/forcing them in there.

R

Except that from all indications, that isn;'t what happened. * The
plane was not departing, it was arriving. *The passenger supposedly
accidently hit the flight attendant while removing his bag and refused
to appologize, which started the incident.

I have no sympathy for this moron. * There are Fed laws governing
unruly passengers and he could have followed procedures and called for
security to deal with the woman. *Even if she were just detained for
an hour and questioned, that would have certainly made a lasting
impression on her for her actions. *I've personally seen people
removed from planes for being abusive to flight attendents. * A case
in point. *Recently I was travelling back from West Palm Beach to
Philly. * As the plane was loading, it became clear that there would
not be enough overhead storage for all the passengers. * So the flight
attendents told people at some point on the jetway that from that
point on carry-on bags had to be checked to go in the cargo hold. * I
did it and there is no charge. *This woman started bitching about it,
insisting she had the right to carry the bag on, that her 80 year old
mother was meeting her and would now have to wait while her luggage
came out, etc. * This continued onto the plane and even after she was
seated. * Finally, they told her to take another airline and escorted
her off the plane. * That plane was the last flight from WPB to Philly
that night. * So, she must have wound up having to stay overnight.
The best part was the flight got in early and by the time I took a
quick bathroom stop and then got to baggage claim, the bags were
already coming off. *That;s a far better solution, inconveniencing the
screw ball, rather than screwing up other passengers and possibly
endangering ground personnel.

What he did cost the airline significant money. *It was reported on
the news last night that it costs $25K to restore the emergency chute
after deployment. * Also, that plane was likely out of service for a
good deal of time and passengers waiting for it for the next flight
likely spent hours waiting, missed connections, meetings, etc.

The guy should pay the full cost for what he did and get convicted on
at least some of the charges.

I agree with all you say trader4, exept that the airline was at fault for
allowing too much carry-on

I haven't seen any evidence that the airline allowed on too much carry-
on or that was an issue. * The plane had arrived at it's destination
and the passenger was removing her carry-on and somehow it hit the
flight attendant. * That could happen without regard to how much carry-
on there was. *For example, she could just pull it out with one hand,
and let it go swinging all over the place.

BTW, your time line is incorrect about when he got conked on the
noggin, but there was another person who did get up before the plane
had stopped moving and started getting their bag. You have been hit
in the head with a bag by some asshole who did that and the plane
lurched? Ain't fun.

You know where this is going, right? On board security cameras that
are running 24/7. Any altercations would be documented. Anyone,
employee or passenger, who creates a sufficiently big problem should
be banned from flying that airline. Essentially a flying death
penalty, and I'm all for it.

R