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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:14:12 -0500, "HeyBub"
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Charlie wrote:
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OT BP again

So they capped the pipe.

Where was this cap for the last 89 days? Why don't they have three
of them or more, at least one on each continent where they have
off-shore wells?


This cap was made to order to fit the application

Why was every procedured they did reported with the caveat, This has
never been done before. Why not?


That's the trouble with this deep well. There has never been an event
quite like this one.


Why haden't they tested all the procedures and devices when they
first started underwater drilling, again when ty started deep water
drilling, and again every time a new procedure or device was
developed?


The he first blow-out protector was tested and failed some of the
tests. They used it anyway. Probably a combination of greed and
incompetence.


A rule from the book "Systemantics":

"A Fail-Safe system will always fail by failing to fail safe"

I've heard at least one person use fail-safe without even knowing what
it means, as if it were synonymous with fail.

Today I heard on the radio, no discussion of when the cap was first
conceived or how long it took to make, or why it wasn't conceived and
made long ago, but that it was used last because methods that couldn't
make things worse were used first.

A) Even if this is a good reaso;n, there still seems to have been too
much time in between. Even more delayed afaict was bp's efforts at
cleanup. It seems they didn't even contract for most of the skimmers
until weeks or a month had gone by. They were "on their way" 6 or 8
weeks in, and not ships that were newly built. No one has said they
were skimming other oil leaks elsewhere.

In addition was one days' report, a long interview, 5 or 8 minutes,
with two people who were there but not allowed to enter, by Mother
Jones reporters that they weren't allowed on some beaches either by BP
guards or by local police, working afaict at the behest of BP. The
normal situation is that "for the public safety" the public is not
allowed where someone decides its dangerous but reporters are allowed
everywhere. At the most, they have to sign a release, releasing as
many as anyone and everyone from repsonibiity for harm that comes to
them. It's not like Godzilla was waiting down the beach to eat them.
It was tarballs and oily water. Too hot to use my web browser so I
can't look at the mother jones site for updated info, if any.