LSMFT wrote:

RickH wrote:
Wow, I used that new Behr paint from Home Depot yesterday, the one
with the paint/primer in one.

Holy cow, thats good paint, was covering a dark red wall with beige
and was dredding needing 3 coats (which I've needed in the past over
this red). The Behr paint did it in one coat, it sure lives up to the
commercial.

Paint sucks, I avoid it.

Normally I would be on the side of supporting HD and their products
instead of the much more expensive and usually inferior items found in
the specialty small businesses but in this case the product simply
doesn't perform as advertised.

I noted this super-dooper primer and finish coat all in one from Behr
and suggested -- nay, mandated -- that my wife use it to repaint the
kitchen. After all if she only has to put on one coat she'll be
available to do other little chores that I can find for her around the
house. Bad mistake. HD really let me down here and as a result I lost
face with the wife. She'll probably assert her own ideas when I have
her replace a support beam in the cellar leading to me having to
actually get my hands dirty. Yikes!

Let me describe the project: Kitchen is around 20 * 30 with a
gloss-white-painted patterned steel (frequently and erroneously called
"tin") ceiling which has been covered with tobacco stain and grease
from cooking over the 20 years since it was last painted. The walls
are in similar shape with the additional problem of numerous dings,
nail pops, abandoned light fittings, and holes where the dog has dug
through the drywall. Obviously I can't trust a female with electrical
work, nor plastering so I had to step in to help here and equally
obviously the paint -- if it's worth the super high price -- should be
able to primer the new plaster/drywall without a separate coat.

Dream on. Not only did it fail here it also failed to seal the grease
and tobacco stains. And it's application is horribly difficult.
Understand that the patterned ceiling requires painting with a brush
and that everywhere rollers make unacceptable spatter and leave an
orange peel effect. I also remember from a previous effort with a
similar wonder paint that the manufacturer formulates it to dry
quickly so you can get the room back into operation the same day. In
that previous job I used Floetrol (sp?) to retard drying and allow the
brush and pad marks to dissipate.

Damn, the wife went through a gallon of the super-costly Behr stuff
before I remembered the previous debacle. To cut a long story short I
had the wife redo the bad-Behr areas and do the rest of the kitchen
with a primer coat of BIN (the shellac-based version) followed by two
coats of Benjamin Moore's Super-Hide Semi-gloss (this is their
contractor line aka the landlord special). Cost is only slightly
higher but the finish is something that the wife can now be proud of
and I can praise her for without having to suppress my snickering.

OTOH Behr Basement paint and sealer is pretty good but that's another
story.