On Jun 13, 8:25*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Well, after my test post, and the answers by the curmudgeons and usual
suspects, ...

Thank you. I'm still working on my grumpy old geezer act.

Sorry, but there was too many messages to read and see what has been going
on in the group, so will just start from zero.

Steve

Start from 1, Cliff is zero.