On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:32:30 -0400, "Tyler" wrote:


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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:28:08 -0400, "Tyler" wrote:


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On Jun 11, 6:32?pm, Molly Brown wrote:
If you had roofing work done:

1. Did you check your attic to see if there is debris on the furnace
or recessed lighting?
2. Did you check to see if the covers on your furnace did not fall
off
from the vibration from all the hammering?
These are fire hazards that a good roofer should have checked for and
a bad roofer may not have at the end of the job.

did you inspect the chimney and cap from above?

in places with freezing weather a cracked cap can let water get
between the liner and chimney bricks, the rain water freezes and
expands the liner breaks and falls down blocking the flue...

it nearly killed my family, a friend happened to stop to visit he is
a
volunteer fireman and realized the symptoms which began to effect him
too was carbon monoxide.

the roof had been replaced but the roofer didnt fix the badly
detoriated cap

Say what? Using your analogy, if I had my windows replaced, I should
be
complaining they didn't fix my steps on the deck.

Do you not have your heating components checked, and expect anyone NOT
qualified to go ahead and just fix stuff?

I do believe if a roofer were to fix a HVAC problem, they could be
sued,
or
at least have their license revoked.

Does that mean, next time I have a HVAC person in, to complain they
didn't
clean my gutters?



True up to a point- the tradesman should not DO any work outside of his
license and skill set, but most tradesmen a generalists to a degree,
and
they should definitely Speak Up about any problems they note while
working on whatever they were hired for. So if the roofer (or more
likely, the guy up on the roof doing the estimate) notices problems
with
the chimney, he should say 'hey while I was up there, I noticed
something
that you should probably take care of before we strip your roof off.'

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aem sends...

This _may_ be true, "if" the problem existed b/4 the roof was done. It
may
also be true "if" they were looking for problems.

It would be like blaming a plumber replacing a soil stack, the roof is
leaking & they didn't mention the roof was bad.

Well, if they want repeat customers and referrals, they take the 2
minutes to look at what's up there when they're up there. It's not
like the deck and the windows which are easy to look at. It's almost
never easy to get up on the roof (unless a window looks out on it),
and the older people get the harder it gets. And a sloped roof gets
riskier the older one is.

That is what home inspectors are for.

Huh? Things deteriorate over time. How often is a homeowner going to
hire a home inspector to inspect the whole home, when almost nothing
has changed. Or do they have a special rate for things on the roof?

At any rate, how often do you hire a home inspector? The guy is ON
the roof already. At the very least, if he knows nothing, he could
look at the chimney and say it if is crumbling. Or that the cap is
half=way off, if he can't tell it's missing when it's totally missing.

Aside from that, a responsible
homeowner will have CO detectors.

There can be a lot of deterioration before it actually causes CO. Or
there could be nothing wrong yet except the missing cap. If the
roofer wants his business to grow, he should spend a 2 or 4 hours and
find out how to inspect a chimney, etc. That will either set him
apart from the average roofer and get him much approval if he notices
something important, or if other roofers already know, he won't be
looking worse than they anymore.

Who are you going to blame about _not_
having CO detectors?

I don't look for people to blame. That's your theory about other
people.

You don't wait for someone to tell you, the symptoms you have, are from CO
poisioning.

In this case someone had symptoms. In other cases, there is a visible
problem on the roof but no symptoms inside the house.

Sooner or later, people have to take on being a responsible
homeowner, whether they like it or not. You can't keep pointing fingers,
believing that excuses you from being responsible.

No one is doing that.