On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:49:33 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:04:26 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:57:19 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:20:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Sun, 30 May 2010 19:11:18 -0500, flipper wrote:

[snip]

Btw, I wouldn't mind if you asked your son-in-law his opinion of the
argument and would be interested to hear his take on it. I suspect he
won't agree but that's the point of a discussion: to hear differing
opinions.

...Jim Thompson

I could never be the go-between. He's brilliant, fast and hard even
to take notes from. Maybe, one of these days, all will be well at the
same time , and I can put together the SED bash, with my family and
neighbors as well.

No problem.

I didn't mean a 'debate' though. I just wondered what he thought of
the argument.

[snip]

I guess we're going to find out.

Not by what you say below, we're not.


Obama's urchins are avoiding SB1070.

Instead they're going after the Arizona law that sanction employers
for hiring illegals.

Positively mind boggling. Even the liberal land 9'th Circuit upheld
that one.

Sanctioning business is an entirely different matter because
businesses are State licensed entities (clear State authority) and I
would argue that even if Federal law attempted to prohibit such
sanctions it (depending on how written) should not stand because that
power is NOT granted to the Fed. But that matter doesn't even come up
because the 1986 Federal statute makes an explicit exclusion for State
licensing (and similar) laws.

Sanctioning business for hiring 'illegal aliens' does not necessarily
require the State to 'pre-empt' Federal determination of immigrant
status. They could sanction after ICE, or authorized agents thereof,
'do their job'.

They're likely to argue that such a law has the 'effect' of making
employers 'immigration officers', which would be unconstitutional, but
that's not the case as there is no 'arrest' or other 'enforcement' by
the business against the alleged 'illegal alien' necessarily involved.

More and more we can clearly see Obama's "leanings"... wonder when
he'll declare that the People's Republic of the United States is an
Islamic Nation?

I don't see the connection.


...Jim Thompson

I was just pointing out what the Obama thugs are doing... for
really... look it up :-(

...Jim Thompson
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