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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:50:32 +0100, Arfa Daily

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On May 26, 8:24 pm, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2010 08:47:05 -0700, Smitty Two

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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2010 05:25:21 -0700 (PDT), sparky

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Lead free solder was invented by the government since they knew
it
would create more jobs (taxes) as the lead free solder caused
trouble
and things were thrown out instead of being repaired.

surface mount, package pin densities, and labor costs have
guaranteed
that almost nothing is repaired beyond the board level making
solder
type
irrelevent. Even board level repairs are unlikely when the cost
of
repairing an item is far higher than its replacement cost.

Leadfree solder was created not to cause electronics be discarded
instead of repaired, but *because* electronics were being
discarded
in
great numbers. Even for items that can be repaired, they
frequently
aren't repaired because anything older than about 18 months is
obsolete in the mind of the consumer.
Which is why, to stray completely off-topic, we should replace
income
tax with a national sales tax. Let the 95% of the masses who are
compulsive consumers foot the bill.

Sorry. I didn't know I was responsding to a lunatic.

Sorry too but I think that these "lunatics" make a whole lot of
sense.
I am one of the 5 percent who tries not to purchase anything new
today
because unfortunately "new" has become synonomous with "crap". Nobody
wants you to repair anything anymore. Either the parts are so
ridiculously expensive or they're just not available. I stocked up on
lead solder a long time ago so that I'll be able to repair all my
older reliable "hazardous" electronics well into the future, until
the
government makes all repair parts unavailable or comes into my house
with a search warrant for lead based solder that is. So for the time
being, **** them and the horse their "stimulus package" rode in on..
BTW how is the US military handling this reliability problem? They
wouldn't usually care too much about a small item like lead
poisoning...

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The ****wits who introduced the legislation are well aware that
equipment
made with lead free solder isn't safe, so aerospace, automotive,
military
and medical are exempt.

Amen to that ...

Is there a big problem with consumers buying cheap aerospace,
automotive, military or medical electronics and filling the landfills
with them?

is there really a big problem with lead from electronics pouring out of
landfills?

I doubt it. the whole rohs thing and europeans are just stupid.

Only insofar as we obey the braindead ******s in Brussels!

Ever been to brussels?

It's one of the most dirty run down cities I've ever seen.

They also can't line up the train platforms with any of the trains either.
It's really sad.

Pretty much says it all, that!

This whole thing was somebody's brilliant brain fart to create some
jobs for people who might be otherwise unemployed. Looks good on the
surface but once you cut through all the bull**** and realize who
really is in bed with whom it projects a whole different image. My
wife thinks I'm paranoid, talking about conspiracy theories and what
not but this whole lead free business as well as the so called
recycling crap we deal with here in the US is all just another aspect
of the great stimulus package we have all had stuffed down our
throats. I'm all for recycling, if it is employed but too often it
just isn't. Three years ago we replaced the asphalt shingles on the
roof of our house. There was 3 tons of shingles to be recycled. I
could have dug a hole and buried them in my back yard, but wanting to
do the "green" thing I took them to the recycling station. This is
supposed to be an environmentally friendly way to dispose of this type
of "hazardous" waste. So I thought that there was going to be some
grand scheme of a procedure for the disposal of this "horrible toxic
hazardous stuff". I paid 350.00 for the privilege of dumping them on a
pile of household trash that was slated to be buried at another
location later on. So it is apparently OK to bury this kind of thing
in one place and not another? Or is it simply a matter of who is
getting greased at one place and not the other? This is always all
about money. Very simply put somebody is raking it in while someone
else is paying through the nose. That's the way we make it look good
on paper. Lenny