On Jun 1, 7:45�am, harry wrote:
On Jun 1, 6:19 am, (Don Klipstein) wrote:
In ,
harry wrote:
On May 31, 3:31=EF=BF=BDam, (Don Klipstein) wrote:
In article , HeyBub wrote
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harry wrote:
The problem is that it's indestrucable. It will be there forever.
That's good.
The Chromium in the dyes used to color a box of Tide will, when the
empty box is placed in a landfill, detach itself from the decomposed
substrate and (possibly) leech into the water system where it will
poison your great-grandchildren.
Asbestos, and the like, does not need to be trained to stay where it
was put.
First, I would like to say that was well-put.
Second, I would like to say that printing inks are heavily based on
organic dyes - no chromium. (But some of the organic compounds used
could be things that the chemophobes would like to say are almost as
toxic as Agent Orange and DDT.)
Back to first - asbestos in the ground and plastic in the ground are
harmless.
Heck, most people who got horrible diseases from asbestos were
regularly/frequently inhaling visible clouds of asbestos fibers.
That sounds to me like hundreds of thousands sometimes millions of
fibers per cubic meter of air. This includes some of the housewives of
the men who worked in the "ground zero areas" of exposure to friable
asbestos fibers, who did the laundry work unto their husbands' clothes.
Probably, some of these housewives shook the clothes to shake off the
portion of the dust that was easy to shake off.
This is nonsense. The susceptabilty of people to asbestos related
disease is very variable. Theoretically a single fibre can cause lung
cancer.
Like a cascaded two cosmic rays or a cascaded two photons of UVB
ultraviolet in sunlight/daylight or smoking 1/4 of 1 cigarette.
Some people working in industries with very heavy exposure
have not been affected. But there are many instances of people with
very minor exposure getting asbestos related diseases. There was a
case a few years back of a women was affected by washing her husband's
overalls.
Probably this means there is only one case or a few cases of a housewife
of heavily exposed husband coming down with asbestos-related disease.
The one/few impacted housewife(s) probably at more than one occaision
inhaled visible clouds of the stuff.
The next one to look out for is glass wool insulation. As installed
in thousands of homes. I expect they'll deny that in America too.
The USA is years behind Europe in protecting it's population against
industrial disease. The first thing they do is deny it's existence.
All in pursuit of profit and the mighty dollar. Again the rich
exploite the poor.
You are getting me into a good mood to agree with whoever said in
whatever newsgroup quite a few years ago that "in my words" (I disclaim
word-for-word accuracy) "fiberglass is about to be considered as-bad-as
(or worse than) asbestos 'never was'".
Not that I doubt that *Bad Stuff* happened to those who spent many days
with multiple hours breathing visible clouds of friable asbestos. Nor do
I doubt that a few housewives of the worst-impacted asbestos workers had
*bad things* happen to them. But I still see asbestos and many other
carcinogens being overblown by orders of magnitude.
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That is because you're iin America where only money counts. �All this
stuff has been documented for years. �Some has been known or more than
a hundred years.
Yes. you're that far out of touch in the USA. �The rest of the world
is far head of you.
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Bit here about glass fibres and lungs. Heavy going but seems there may
well be a problem.
Don't read this Beezebub. It's way over you head.
http://www.saffil.com/fibre.htm