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Don Klipstein

In , zz* wrote:
On 5/11/10 13:37:51 -07 PDT, Evan wrote:

On May 11, 2:15*pm, "h" wrote:
Suing someone for your idiocy is absurd and you will never make it
past the motions stage of the process...

And yet, the woman who spilled hot coffee on her crotch, after removing the
lid while driving the car, sued Micky D's. Successfully.

Yes... That was because there was no valid reason for McDonald's to
serve the coffee that hot (literally just a few degrees shy of 212ºF
which is BOILING water) out of cups which could result in a spill
even when they were used and handled properly... Poor choices
made by McDonald's to keep the coffee VERY hot to reduce waste
and save a few bucks resulted in providing customers with a very
hazardous beverage until it cooled down quite a bit... That is why
they ended up paying damages in that famous case...

Bull****. The coffee was a (then) standard 180F.

I seem to think that stellawards.com cited serving temperature of
185 F.

And I have been somewhat crazy enough to on a few occaisions take a
thermometer into the workplace and deploy the thermometer unto the
coffee...

The output of the Bunn "Pour-O-Matic" at my "day job" mere seconds
after filling my cup was 158 F. And my cup was a plastic mug with
name of one of one of University of Pennsylvania's fraternities.

I even carried the same thermometer into the place of business of my
biggest client. Mere seconds after serving into a styrofoam cup, I
measured about 147 degrees F.

If you actually READ deeper about that McDonald's case beyond what
made it into the poorly written news articles which only focused on
her injuries AND the fact that she won, you would learn that the amount
awarded to her by the jury was in fact reduced by a percentage to
reflect her poorly made decision to put the coffee cup between her legs
rather than take an extra second to place them in one of the cup holders
in the car...

She should have gotten ZERO, and been forced to pay McD's costs.

The McDonald's hot coffee case is a poor comparison to someone
failing to read and understand the cooking instructions on a package
of microwave popcorn... Said popcorn is not dangerous and doesn't
create smoke if you follow the directions and don't burn it by
allowing it to cook in the microwave 50% longer than the directions
indicate...

I consider the famous McD-coffee case to have low similarity to abusing
"microwave popcorn" due to the infamous coffee not being abused except by
its seller (in large part from unusually high serving temperature and by
its customers necessitating abuse due to abusive packaging design
[coffeecup lids having a design more promoting spills]).

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- Don Klipstein )